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EMarshallBuckles Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2007 07:29 pm |
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| Back before getting started with these forums, I had started to post on the Fighting Fundamental Forums. They are allegedly a fundamentalist Baptist group of forums which use software similar to that used here. Anyway, the difference is like night and day. Here, I get a feeling that I am truly discussing, in large part, Christian issues with Christians. on the Fighting Fundamental Forums, I just have to wonder about those folks, have to wonder about their spirituality or lack of it. Anyway, I hope that you will pray for the posters on the Fighting Fundamental Forums. Please pray that they will truly turn to Christ if they have not already done so.
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Credo Catholic Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2007 08:39 pm |
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| Are they fighting for or against fundamentalism? Anything with the word "fighting" in it would sound aggressive.
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EMarshallBuckles Member

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Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2007 01:04 pm |
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Credo Catholic wrote: Are they fighting for or against fundamentalism? Anything with the word "fighting" in it would sound aggressive.
Well, ma'am, I think that they are fighting for fundamentalism as well as with each other, ha, ha! A bunch of them apparently have connections with Bob Jones University - with which I am sure you are familiar living in the city where it is located - as well as with a number of other conservative, fundamentalist colleges and universities. By the way, I was reading on that forum about how Bob Jones University is having a major problem with a "whooping cough" epidemic. I hope that you don't catch it since BJU students are probably out and around your area a lot and it may spread.
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Credo Catholic Member

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Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2007 05:29 pm |
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| Hopefully I've been vaccinated at some time or another. I will be visiting in the home of a BJU student tomorrow evening! He has to have a booster before he can return to school after the holidays. I've invited his grandmother, a friend of mine, to attend mass with me. She is a former Lutheran turned Evangelical due to her family's activities at BJU. I think she did it to please them. She has told me she misses liturgical worship.
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EMarshallBuckles Member

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Posted: Thu Dec 6th, 2007 07:04 pm |
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That's wonderful that the Grandmother may attend Mass with you! I hope that she will. Back in the 1980s, I worked as a (low level, nothing great, ha, ha) Deputy Clerk with the U.S. Court of Appeals in Richmond (the Honorable Clement Haynsworth and the Honorable Donald S. Russell from your area were among our Judges - they were great men and it was a privilege to be of service to them). We had a case involving Bob Jones University. Curious about it, I read a student handbook which was part of the lower court record. On one hand, at least they kept their students from being involved in all the drug and alcohol abuse and the promiscuity found on many American college campuses. On the other hand, it was almost as if they were into total control of the students and their families. In fact, the case before the court involved a woman who was the wife of one of their students. They were living off campus, out in the community there, and, as I recall, she had been doing some gardening out in their back yard (not open to public view) and someone had somehow seen here wearing a pair of very conservative blue jeans. As I recall, the university was going to kick out the student because his wife was wearing blue jeans in their backyard. The couple won their case and, as I understand it, the university had to lighten up a bit. Anyway, I am glad that you are involved with the grandmother and I hope that she will get to go to Mass with you! By the way, in case I don't communicate with you before then, I wish you and yours a very merry Christmas and a happy new year! 
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Racaela Fultz Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 7th, 2007 12:41 am |
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I was raised fundamentalist. In fact, I actually met Bob Jones (the fourth, I think), and studied under him at a seminar I went to.
How life changes.
____________________ "To be deep in history is to cease to be protestant" - Cardinal Newman
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Pani Rose Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 7th, 2007 11:43 pm |
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Lord of the Powers be with us, for in times of distress we have no other help but You.
Lord of the Powers, have mercy on us.
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Credo Catholic Member

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Posted: Sat Dec 8th, 2007 02:07 am |
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She did go to mass with me tonight. How great it was, and the best thing? The priest who celebrated the mass was our Father Longenecker who is a former BJU student! He talked about it a little during the homily. My friend enjoyed it, said it was so peaceful and reverent compared to their noisy chatting at the independent baptist church they attend.
BJU has always been notorious for strict regulations on dress codes, behavior, etc. They also teach a very good and I think unusual work ethic. They have their good points. They just don't have all the Truth!
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EMarshallBuckles Member

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Posted: Sat Dec 8th, 2007 03:37 am |
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| Well, I am glad that she went to Mass with you! That is interesting about the Priest having attended BJU! It sure would be interesting to hear his story! And, yes, regarding BJU, there are some good things about them in some ways. At least they are not like the "schools of iniquity" public universities I suffered through back when!
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EMarshallBuckles Member

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Posted: Sat Dec 8th, 2007 03:44 am |
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Racaela Fultz wrote: I was raised fundamentalist. In fact, I actually met Bob Jones (the fourth, I think), and studied under him at a seminar I went to.
How life changes.
Whether or not I have agreed with them, it has always been interesting to actually meet religious and political leaders. I imagine that meeting and hearing Bob Jones would have been very interesting. I would dearly loved to have met His Holiness Pope John Paul II (the Great as I think of him), however, I will look forward to meeting him in heaven some day.
And, I agree, life does change. Back in the early '70s, I considered myself to be a political liberal and strongly questioned the Christian faith. In the mid early 21st century I find myself leaning towards the Catholic Church and tending to be fairly conservative on a lot of issues. People who knew me back in the early '70s and have become reacquainted with me now have been "flabbergasted", truly amazed, about how I am now. If asked what made the change, I can only say, "Jesus"!
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Posted: Sat Dec 8th, 2007 01:31 pm |
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EMarshallBuckles wrote: That is interesting about the Priest having attended BJU! It sure would be interesting to hear his story!
Fr. Dwight Longenecker's story is among the conversion stories on the CHNI. Click on the Homepage in the upper right corner of this page, then click on conversion stories, then scroll down to Dwight Longenecker.
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Posted: Sat Dec 8th, 2007 04:40 pm |
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Credo Catholic wrote: EMarshallBuckles wrote: That is interesting about the Priest having attended BJU! It sure would be interesting to hear his story!
Fr. Dwight Longenecker's story is among the conversion stories on the CHNI. Click on the Homepage in the upper right corner of this page, then click on conversion stories, then scroll down to Dwight Longenecker.
You'll find it here.
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Posted: Sat Dec 8th, 2007 08:31 pm |
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| I did not Know BJU was a family church/university in which the pastorate is passed from father to son. I have noticed lately that this seems to be the case with a lot of the big TV ministries. It recalls to mind one of the reasons celebacy became the norm in the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church.
____________________ "...the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth." 1Tim 3, 15
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EMarshallBuckles Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 9th, 2007 02:03 am |
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CajunRick wrote: Credo Catholic wrote: EMarshallBuckles wrote: That is interesting about the Priest having attended BJU! It sure would be interesting to hear his story!
Fr. Dwight Longenecker's story is among the conversion stories on the CHNI. Click on the Homepage in the upper right corner of this page, then click on conversion stories, then scroll down to Dwight Longenecker.
You'll find it here.
So the first Bob Jones was a METHODIST?!?! I am "flabbergasted"!!! DOGGONE!!! I'll have to ponder on that! Oh well! Very interesting story about Father Longenecker! AWESOME!! Thanks for helping me find that!
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