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Dave Armstrong Network Apologist

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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 11:30 pm |
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My head is spinning with all this input! Everyone seems to have a different story with this multi-lens business. I gotta figure out if it is close-range or intermediate for both reading and computer (I think I still want just one lens for that, not two). I suppose it is just a matter of how far from my eyes the monitor and the book are.
Then there is the thing where you are typing on the computer and looking down at a book to type from. So I can have the book and monitor a little ways away and do the intermediate, or closer and do the near-sighted lens.
Or conventional bifocals would do the trick there, but I am getting used to progressives without the lines, so I'm not sure how I would like that being there all the time during my writing work . . .
SIGH. Any suggestions?!
One thing I love for sure is the transition lens that gets dark outside. 
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 01:59 am |
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Then there is the thing where you are typing on the computer and looking down at a book to type from. So I can have the book and monitor a little ways away and do the intermediate, or closer and do the near-sighted lens.
For me, both at work and at home, the line hits just about the lower edge of the monitor, making the transition from mid-distance to reading utterly painless. And since the monitor is not up in my face, I can set a copyboard or a book or two between it and the keyboard. (In fact, there is a large book in there at the moment.) For me, it’s the perfect arrangement.
Now the reason I couldn’t use the progressives was because if I wanted to see anything clearly, I had to tilt my head just so. At the computer, I had to hold my head in exactly the same position all day. A couple of weeks of that and I needed a neck brace. At least with my lined bi- and trifocals I can see clearly (as befits a man who is utterly visual), instead of the constant fishbowl distortion and blur that I experienced with the progressives, and still move my head and relax.
But you already have the progressives. I’m not saying no one can live with progressive lenses. Maybe you can. But I couldn’t, and I’m happy with the lines.
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 03:06 am |
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 I'm back on for a few minutes. There is no way I can log on from work anymore. I even tried it with a new name. No luck. So it's a few minutes in the evening.
Speaking specifically to your glasses issue. I've had progressive trifocals for many years. I love them. Yeah...the viewing angle is a bit narrow, but I'm so used to it now I don't even notice. I love them. I think it's just a matter of getting used to them.
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Dave Armstrong Network Apologist

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Posted: Mon Apr 28th, 2008 04:31 pm |
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I'm pretty much used to my progressives by now. We were painting our garage over the weekend and I was doing it without glasses (just so I wouldn't get paint on 'em). But I forgot at one point and was working with my new glasses for a half hour or so and didn't even notice that I had them on. That was a great sign.
I decided to get a second pair in the intermediate range, for computer and (I think) reading. If they don't work for reading (books), I can either read with my progressives (but it seems so restricted, like with the computer) or without glasses as I have been. I think the intermediate should do just fine, though.
Basically, then, I'll be wearing my intermediate lens glasses most of the time I am inside, with the exception of watching TV. Everything outside will be the progressive lenses, unless I am going to a library, etc.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28th, 2008 05:08 pm |
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I have two pairs of glasses:
a bifocal set of safety glasses with removable sideshields for everyday use. these are photochromic and the safety feature allows me to wear them at the range and when working at other eye-hazardous things. I asked the optometrist to set the reading distance at a certain distance and if there was an in-between reading for the distance ones to over-correct slightly since i am more sensitive to under-correction than over-correction and this allows me to see .30 caliber holes in a target at 50 yards better.
the second pair of glasses is for computer use only. i measured the distance between my glasses and computer screen and asked the optometrist to have them optimized for this distance.
Everything works fine though I am not as enamored of the photochromic feature as I thought i would be. to get fully dark they have to be in direct sunlight but I tend to wear a hat outdoors and they don't get fully dark in the car either. so i got clip-ons to use while driving.
I haven't used progressive glasses. i assume they would bother me since I am sensitive to over- and under-correction.
And then there is the special pair that some target shooters use: trifocals with the medium distance lens on TOP so you can tilt your head down a little to see the front sight.
end of glasses story. 8-)
Last edited on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 05:09 pm by Annie
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Dave Armstrong Network Apologist

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Posted: Mon Apr 28th, 2008 05:27 pm |
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Man, I had no idea people had so many "glasses arrangements." 
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 04:29 am |
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I've been on trifocals for a year Dave and they work fine on computers. But don't forget those font settings, too. (That'll save you some money for a while.) Seriously, though the trifocals are the way to go, and mine aren't even "progressive." Last year the doc gave me a 20/20 rating which I know won't hold up this year so I know I'll be in for a kick in the pants cost wise since this will probably mean putting my "tri's" in coke bottle bottoms.
But I've got a week's wait on that. Believe me though, you'll adjust a lot faster than you think. ANd yes, Judy's in my prayers, too.
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Dave Armstrong Network Apologist

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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 01:26 am |
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It's going pretty well, except my right eye doesn't work very sharp for distance. Is that a matter of adjustment, too, or did they just botch my prescription for right eye distance?
I also noticed that when I tried to read, I could focus great with one eye and also the other. The only problem was when I tried to use both together, in which case, one would always be blurry.
Not ideal . . . so I await my 2nd pair of intermediate range reading glasses. I hope they work out for me. I can still read with no glasses if I have to. I've been doing that for years, and it is hardly any strain (esp. on the computer).
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 01:41 am |
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Make it right according to what is best for Dave Jesus...
Our Father, Who art in heaven,
Hallowed be Thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.
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Dave Armstrong Network Apologist

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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 07:45 pm |
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| That's sweet, Rose. Thanks to you and all who have commented and prayed about this. The current situation is that Judy's new glasses (after about a week) seem to be not too sharp and focused. It may still be the adjustment period of two weeks or so. I get my second pair tomorrow and we can talk to them then about what's going on with her.
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Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 05:36 am |
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Dave, my tri's aren't nearly as strong as they were a year ago. I'm almost dead on sure of it, and it may have something to do with putting in so much time on this machine. But reading about Judy's need for such (what seems to be a drastic and painful adjustment ($$-wise ) you, and yourself as well, you guys are certainly in my prayers.
Ruth's doing really fine and we're grateful for yours and everyone's prayers.
PS: Life's not fair dept.: when a gal develops a condition in her eyes that cause them to move, you never hear the term "wandering eye." But a guy gets nailed with it even if his eyes are glued in straight with bondo! 
One more thing -- Too much of the rong wreverend will do yer eyes in, too.
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 05:57 pm |
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Dave Armstrong wrote: Man, I had no idea people had so many "glasses arrangements." 
I use progressive lenses and have been very well satisfied. As you can imagine, I spend a lot of time in front of a computer screen, and the only time my glasses are a real problem is when I am playing the organ at church, as the music rack is too high and I find I have to lean my head back uncomfortably to see the music! I need a new pairs these are over 10 years old, but since I have to use titanium frames due to skin chemistry, my glasses cost close to $1000, and that ain't happenin' any time soon!
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 06:40 pm |
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$1000??!! Whoah. That puts my cost to shame! And I got designer frames (Jones of New York).
I'm extremely pleased with my new reading glasses, which are set to the "intermediate range" of my progressives. They're working fine for the computer and book reading. Sharp and no strain or difficulty focusing at all. No "fishbowl" phenomenon when I turn my head 2 millimeters. Useless for anything else, but that's okay; I solved the computer / work day vision problems. I can do the computer and type from a book on the side, perfectly.
Judy is back to the optometrist today to see if anything can be done to get sharper vision (apparently at no cost), so the saga continues!
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