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Please keep me in prayer. I was supposed to go in tomorrow for rotator cuff surgery, but it was found that my blood pressure was dangerously high. I've been very stressed out by the upcoming surgery and also by the limbo-like state of my spiritual walk towards Catholicism. Now I'm on meds for high b/p and stress and I hate being on drugs!

I'm feeling very discouraged right now. Thanks for listening and praying.  :crying2:



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Kim, I was wondering about you. You've been on my mind.

Boy, the Devil is after you, girl. I don't blame him. I wouldn't want you actively engaged inside the Lord's one true Church, if I were the Devil.

I'm going to say a Divine Mercy chaplet for you before bed tonight. Also,
the Bible Study group will remember you in prayer Tuesday evening.

Now, you need to talk. Strong extroverts, especially women, usually feel better after "talking."

Hey, I was prostrate on my living room floor, weeping many big tears,
multiple times, Kim. It isn't easy. We know it is not easy.

Love you, girl.
Becky:hugging:

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Kim M. wrote:
Now I'm on meds for high b/p and stress and I hate being on drugs!



Well, we gotta have a plan and focus on the light at the end.

Howza 'bout

1. Get the blood pressure under control, with the help of meds.

2. Get the stress under control with the help of Adoration -- I so hope you can find a place there for Adoration. As I've said, I would not have survived the stress without Adoration. Please go and sit at least thirty minutes in the presence of Jesus. Talk to him silently and very simply, like a child. You won't believe how calming it is.

3. Are you able to walk? If so, (and if you don't already have an exercise plan), could you and hubby begin walking together? Or could you walk alone every day? Excellent for stress and for b/p problems and for praying.

4. Get the surgery behind you.
5. Recover, while remembering that we love you. :waving:

6. We'll ask the Holy Spirit for the next step. :praying:



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Prayers are being offered up Kim...In the mean time...Let me tell you a little story about my blood pressure last year...

I strained my shoulder blade muscle playing a computer game for 6 hours. Talk about stupid. My primary care doctor could not see me so I went to the emergency room at the hospital for treatment. They gave me three pills to treat the problem. One of them was a pain medication called Toradal. It was great too...until it raised my blood pressure to 264/143! I believe the stress after checking it drove it even higher...I had no idea blood pressure could get that high...The ambulance tech told me my wrist blood pressure meter was not as accurate as his and I was not in danger of a stroke. I' sure he said this to calm me down so I would not have a stroke...I asked him just how high can blood pressure go anyway and what is the level for a stroke. He told me he has seen higher blood pressure and anything over 140 on the lower number would put me in the stroke zone. My lower number was 130 something when he checked it.

I do not know if this information is medically sound or not, but maybe others can shed some light on it. I know my doctor wants mine to be 120/80, but I don't function well unless it is 135/85 or so. At times it dips to 110/68. At this point I skip the blood pressure meds all together for a day or so.

Did someone tell you just how high was "dangerously high" when they checked it for you?

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Am praying for you, Kim!  It's so hard when things don't go as expected, but we must trust that there is a reason for it.  Maybe God is protecting you from some harm that may have occured if you had surgery tomorrow.  Know you are in His Loving Arms even when you don't feel like it!


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Kim, you will be in my prayers.  Sorry you had to postpone your surgery.  If your rotator cuff is causing pain, that can raise your bp.  And like Norm said, just worrying about your bp can cause it to go up!  I agree with Becky, sitting before the Blessed Sacrament is the most peaceful thing on earth you can do.  No doctor will tell you that.  Well, maybe a rare catholic doctor.  Mine advised leisurely walking and two prescriptions.  :crying2:


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Kim,

I've had some rough BP problems this past year. After joking for most of my life that I gave high BP instead of getting it, the opposite really happened more often these past years, esp. last year when I hit 200 twice in one day!

Talk about "hitting a daily double!" But it was medication and stress.

More amusingly, a week ago I attended a funeral for an old friend and even though I was antsy waiting for the priest to get over his long, and quite unneccessarily drawn out homily, I thought for sure my BP would skyrocket by the time I was to be at a reg. doc's apppointment also scheduled later that morn.

But when I got there, after riding the bus to way out of town and having time to sit down, apparently the BP dropped quite a bit; although you could've not convinced me ahead of time it would've. Not by a long shot.

It was only 115/50, very low compared to even my most previous readings.

The nurse said, "You should go to more funerals more often."

Boy, I laughed to myself, a lot of people will have to meet their maker to keep my BP down if my atenenol or other meds won't do the job!

You're in my prayers,
Steven

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{{hugs}} & prayers Kim. 

Deep breaths.  It'll be ok.

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Intercessor wrote: Kim, I was wondering about you. You've been on my mind.

Boy, the Devil is after you, girl. I don't blame him. I wouldn't want you actively engaged inside the Lord's one true Church, if I were the Devil.

I'm going to say a Divine Mercy chaplet for you before bed tonight. Also,
the Bible Study group will remember you in prayer Tuesday evening.

Now, you need to talk. Strong extroverts, especially women, usually feel better after "talking."

Hey, I was prostrate on my living room floor, weeping many big tears,
multiple times, Kim. It isn't easy. We know it is not easy.

Love you, girl.
Becky:hugging:

Thank you, Becky. :needhug:

I realized in my loopy state that I want to be Catholic. I want it regardless of all the junk floating around in my head. I have been so stressed trying to sort things out and to make sense of things, and my mind just can't grasp everything pro and con that's been rattling around in there. Maybe it's not supposed to. But last night in my pitiful, tearful, and totally-open-to-God state, I told Him I want to be a Catholic. If I could've, I would've contacted a priest right then and there. The meds I'm on relaxed me enough to set aside the noise in my head and to focus on what was really important to me. That's what I want...to be Catholic. Once that's decided, I'm hoping the stress level will drop. It was my spiritual bottleneck, if you will.

Thank you and everyone else for your prayers. Please pray not only for my health, but for boldness to enwrap me. I need to move forward.





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Praying for a full recovery & a your entrance into the Church. :praying:

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Intercessor wrote: Kim, I was wondering about you. You've been on my mind.

Boy, the Devil is after you, girl. I don't blame him. I wouldn't want you actively engaged inside the Lord's one true Church, if I were the Devil.

I'm going to say a Divine Mercy chaplet for you before bed tonight. Also,
the Bible Study group will remember you in prayer Tuesday evening.

Now, you need to talk. Strong extroverts, especially women, usually feel better after "talking."

Hey, I was prostrate on my living room floor, weeping many big tears,
multiple times, Kim. It isn't easy. We know it is not easy.

Love you, girl.
Becky:hugging:

Thank you, Becky. :needhug:

I realized in my loopy state that I want to be Catholic. I want it regardless of all the junk floating around in my head. I have been so stressed trying to sort things out and to make sense of things, and my mind just can't grasp everything pro and con that's been rattling around in there. Maybe it's not supposed to. But last night in my pitiful, tearful, and totally-open-to-God state, I told Him I want to be a Catholic. If I could've, I would've contacted a priest right then and there. The meds I'm on relaxed me enough to set aside the noise in my head and to focus on what was really important to me. That's what I want...to be Catholic. Once that's decided, I'm hoping the stress level will drop. It was my spiritual bottleneck, if you will.

Thank you and everyone else for your prayers. Please pray not only for my health, but for boldness to enwrap me. I need to move forward.




We love you. :hugging: You have got some fabulous prayer warriors (not talking about myself) going for you. I said the chaplet for you and also lit a candle for you at the Marian shrine this morning. Boldness is the word.

You're doing fine, Kim. You're doing so well. I'm very proud of you and can just feel Jesus smiling over the courage you've already shown.

You're on the right track. Let go and let God. Take Mary's hand. Snuggle up close. Even if it sounds weird to your widdle ears, ask her to hold your hand like a child's and comfort you.

You can count on our prayers.

Much love,
Becky

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Kim M. wrote: I realized in my loopy state that I want to be Catholic. I want it regardless of all the junk floating around in my head. I have been so stressed trying to sort things out and to make sense of things, and my mind just can't grasp everything pro and con that's been rattling around in there. Maybe it's not supposed to. But last night in my pitiful, tearful, and totally-open-to-God state, I told Him I want to be a Catholic. If I could've, I would've contacted a priest right then and there. The meds I'm on relaxed me enough to set aside the noise in my head and to focus on what was really important to me. That's what I want...to be Catholic. Once that's decided, I'm hoping the stress level will drop. It was my spiritual bottleneck, if you will.

Thank you and everyone else for your prayers. Please pray not only for my health, but for boldness to enwrap me. I need to move forward.

Sometimes God has to bring us to that point of total surrender before we see what's really important.  That's what happened to me, Kim.  I had to be bedridden and stripped of everything I thought was important; everything that I thought defined who I was, for God to finally get through to me!

I pray you will find your way home to the Church soon!  And I pray your BP will stabilize so you are able to have your surgery.  Perhaps this all happened for the exact reason you stated above??!!:shrugging:


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Kim M. wrote: I've been very stressed out by the upcoming surgery and also by the limbo-like state of my spiritual walk towards Catholicism. Now I'm on meds for high b/p and stress and I hate being on drugs!

Family cares and shares.  We're here for you, girl!

Hopefully after my "birthday present" you're blood pressure dropped 20 or 30 points.

Remember that God gave us the researchers who came up with the medications that help us to control things like blood pressure, blood sugar, cholesterol, bleeding ulcers, sinusitis, visual problems, allergies, and heart problems (and now you have a litany of my health conditions!)  Most of them are based on naturally occurring substances, and are God-given.

Stress is the evolutionary (that is, God-given) mechanism for helping us to run away from dinosaurs!  It raises our blood pressure and blood sugar because it helps us to survive.  The problem is not that our blood pressure/sugar gets high, it's that we don't have any more dinosaurs!   All those stress hormones build up, and there's nowhere for them to go.  We have to take medication to help us deal with them.

It's amazing how much peace you can find by resolving indecision.  And now we're back to my  birthday present!

Peace, girl.  You're in our prayers.  Let us know if we can help.



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I thought that stress was for helping us run away from TIGERS - especially when we have the football and it is fourth and goal!  ;)

Anyway, yes ma'am, I think that you are wise to not try to have surgery while your blood pressure is up.  I was wondering if perhaps physical therapy might help with your rotator cuff non-surgically.  I pray for God's blessings, peace and healing for you! 


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EMarshallBuckles wrote: I thought that stress was for helping us run away from TIGERS - especially when we have the football and it is fourth and goal!  ;)

Anyway, yes ma'am, I think that you are wise to not try to have surgery while your blood pressure is up.  I was wondering if perhaps physical therapy might help with your rotator cuff non-surgically.  I pray for God's blessings, peace and healing for you! 

I think it's probably too torn, Marshall. My doctor is not one to go the surgical route first, but prefers to be the most non-invasive he can be. He says it won't heal apart from surgery. If I never wanted to raise my arm again, maybe I could get away from it! lol But I kinda like being able to reach up. :roflmho:He'll be doing Arthroscopic surgery, so very minimal invasiveness. Amazing, isn't it? May 7th's the next big day!

Thankfully, those LSU Tigers don't scare me none. We just send down those Atlanta Falcons to mess with 'em! (I'm showing my sports ignorance here. Watch Rick pounce on this one. heehee)

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Kim M. wrote: EMarshallBuckles wrote: I thought that stress was for helping us run away from TIGERS - especially when we have the football and it is fourth and goal!  ;)

Anyway, yes ma'am, I think that you are wise to not try to have surgery while your blood pressure is up.  I was wondering if perhaps physical therapy might help with your rotator cuff non-surgically.  I pray for God's blessings, peace and healing for you! 

I think it's probably too torn, Marshall. My doctor is not one to go the surgical route first, but prefers to be the most non-invasive he can be. He says it won't heal apart from surgery. If I never wanted to raise my arm again, maybe I could get away from it! lol But I kinda like being able to reach up. :roflmho:He'll be doing Arthroscopic surgery, so very minimal invasiveness. Amazing, isn't it? May 7th's the next big day!

Thankfully, those LSU Tigers don't scare me none. We just send down those Atlanta Falcons to mess with 'em! (I'm showing my sports ignorance here. Watch Rick pounce on this one. heehee)

:tiptoe:

Tennesee is a nuisance.  The Falcons induce serious hatred.  I will, however, forgive you since Atlanta no longer has a professional football team.



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CajunRick wrote:Tennesee is a nuisance.  The Falcons induce serious hatred.  I will, however, forgive you since Atlanta no longer has a professional football team.
:shrugging: All I know is what I hear in the news (when I'm listening). Something about Michael Vick and pitbulls. Oh and that they play football. :needhelp:



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Isaiah 62:9 - In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them; in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old.

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I thought I'd give an update on my b/p issues and the shoulder surgery I said I was going to have.

First of all, thank you for your prayers! I need them so badly right now.

I'm still struggling to keep my blood pressure down. They doubled my meds and I still have times when it's high. Very frustrating! I'm trying to avoid salt (which is hard since eating "too much" is so very easy to do), and I'm trying not to stress, which is also hard.

The stress is the problem. They gave me xanax to calm my anxiety and I just hate taking it. I save it only for when I absolutely need it. I tried taking it at bedtime so I could sleep better and wake up without stress, but I felt so yucky that I stopped. Now I just double my cal/mag supplement before bed. I sleep okay, but I still wake up stressed. I can't seem to stop the "stressing out as soon as I wake up" problem. I'm feeling pretty helpless and defeated. I've prayed, but nothing is changing.

Tomorrow I go for a complete gyn physical. I'm hoping my doctor will find some hormonal imbalance issue or something (me being 46 and all). Right now, so much in my spiritual life feels up in the air. I know that is contributing a huge amount to the anxiety, and the stress is probably causing more imbalance. Plus the surgery, but mainly I'm stressing now over my b/p because I can't seem to keep it down all the time.

I'm just a mess! :embarrassed:

My surgery is scheduled for this Wednesday. I'll see what comes of my exam tomorrow and will ask the doctor if he thinks I'm up for the surgery. Right now, the way I feel, I would think not, just from a mental health perspective. But maybe he will put my mind at ease after examining me. He delivered my last 3 babies, so I have great confidence in him. I haven't been in for a gyn exam for 8 years. I know, bad me. Who knows what he'll find?

Your prayers are still needed (badly). :praying:

Not a happy update, but an update, nonetheless.




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Kim,

I'm really sorry to hear that you are still having such a struggle.

I'm kind of a broken record on adoration. Blood pressure, anxiety, stress, fearfulness, weariness respond to time spent in front of the Blessed Sacrament. An hour a day would be ideal. (at least half an hour each day or at least an hour every other day) Cut back on studying, perhaps, to make time for adoration.

Hope you are also walking every day--long walks.

I'll keep praying. Keep us posted on whether you get to have your surgery.

Hang in there, Kim. I know you're weary. :hugging:

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Intercessor wrote: Kim,

I'm really sorry to hear that you are still having such a struggle.

I'm kind of a broken record on adoration. Blood pressure, anxiety, stress, fearfulness, weariness respond to time spent in front of the Blessed Sacrament. An hour a day would be ideal. (at least half an hour each day or at least an hour every other day) Cut back on studying, perhaps, to make time for adoration.

Hope you are also walking every day--long walks.

I'll keep praying. Keep us posted on whether you get to have your surgery.

Hang in there, Kim. I know you're weary. :hugging:

God bless and strengthen you,
Becky
Excellent suggestion Becky.  But, perhaps take you books to adoration and study before the Blessed Sacrament.  One thing I love when I am up home, is going over to the university, the Franciscan Univerity of Steubenville, there you will find the kids sound asleep on the floor with their books lying in front of them before the Blessed Sacrament, in the chapel.  Such a wonderful sight to see.  I know they need to be praying or reading, but I think the Lord must just give them rest.

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Intercessor wrote: Kim,

I'm really sorry to hear that you are still having such a struggle.

I'm kind of a broken record on adoration. Blood pressure, anxiety, stress, fearfulness, weariness respond to time spent in front of the Blessed Sacrament. An hour a day would be ideal. (at least half an hour each day or at least an hour every other day) Cut back on studying, perhaps, to make time for adoration.

Hope you are also walking every day--long walks.

I'll keep praying. Keep us posted on whether you get to have your surgery.

Hang in there, Kim. I know you're weary. :hugging:

God bless and strengthen you,
Becky

Excellent suggestion Becky.  But, perhaps take you books to adoration and study before the Blessed Sacrament. 


Hi, Rose,

People are different. For me, adoration is concentrated one-on-one time with the Lord. Reading or studying at adoration (for me) would be like going out to dinner with a spouse and having my nose in a newspaper. Once in a while I'll use LOTH, but even then, I read only a line or two at a time and then look directly at the Lord, reading aloud to Him, not to myself, and not studying. Sometimes I sing to the Lord, but I'm never studying.

In any case, Kim has done so much studying in the last several months that I figured her mind needed a break. Now I'm running for cover before the rotten vegetables fly from persons who like to read during Adoration. :D
Maybe you'll have mercy, remembering that I did say, "People are different."
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"If our charity is arrested by the difficulties encountered in dealing with our neighbor, . . . our relations with our brethren are not regulated by our love of God, but by our love of self." Divine Intimacy p. 781, Fr. Gabriel, O.C.D.

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Kim M.
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Joined: Mon Feb 11th, 2008
Location: Georgia USA
Posts: 442
First Name: Kim
Gender: Female
Faith History: Baptist, Assembly of God, Church of God, Assembly again, PCA, ...
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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 02:54 am

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I know I need to get myself to a Eucharistic Adoration. I'm sure that would help. The closest church we have only has it twice a month. So it would be difficult for me to go. Not to mention that Fridays happen to be crazy busy around here. Excuses, excuses. :eyeroll:

I'll be visiting with my Catholic friend on Tuesday, Lord willing. I'll see if I can get her to commit to meeting me at her church or the closer one soon if I have to put off the surgery a bit longer. I'm still scared to walk into a Catholic church. Isn't that ridiculous?? :embarrassed:

Lord, help me!

I really wonder how much of this stress is spiritual warfare. Lotsa prayers, pleasepleaseplease???



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