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Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 01:01 am |
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Hello, all.
It's been a while since I've posted. I want to thank you all for your prayers for my oldest daughter who is still involved with the neopagan. That situation has not yet been resolved, but I was starting to find some peace in placing it in God's Hands and trusting that He would bring her back to the Church in His time.
I have a new request, please. I am asking prayers for my youngest child, Paula. We just found out this past week that she has scoliosis. She will be going for an MRI (to make sure there is no spinal cord involvement) on 9/24 and then a dr. follow up on 9/30.
I am very concerned as her curve is a moderate one. The dr. we saw said
that she would not be a candidate for a brace as she has finished growing.
So one option may be surgery.
Please also pray for strength for me and my family as we face this new
challenge. Please ask that God direct us to the people who will help our
daughter.
God bless you all and thank you!
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Christine Ann
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Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 02:02 am |
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Hello Marian,
I will certainly pray for the difficult decision you must make. I've had scoliosis since I was 13 that went undiagnosed for many years. By the time I was an adult, and able to check it out myself, the only option the doctors gave me was having what they called then, a Harrington Rod inserted along my spine. That meant major back surgery and a year in a body cast...this is what I was told. I opted not to have the surgery. Now I'm 59 and I do have pain from this problem, but I can't imagine going all these years with a rod, which at the time would not allow me to bend over at the waist. But that was my situation. They may be able to do things surgically today that they couldn't have when I was diagnosed...but I would be very slow and cautious about a major back surgery. I'm sure others on the Forum will respond to your request. The curvature of my spine had a great affect on my young psyche for years, but even knowing that, I opted out of having surgery. May God be with you and your daughter. I know this is a painful discovery.
Hope this helps...I certainly don't want to cause you more concern, but this has been my experience.
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EMarshallBuckles
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| If I may gently, kindly make a suggestion, my feeling has long been that if a bodily problem is not life threatening, if it can be lived with without a great deal of discomfort, if it is not creating some huge, insurmountable handicap, it would be, in my opinion, better to find ways to adapt to it and avoid surgery. I have, for example, a twin brother who was born without his right ear - this was back in the 1950s. Well, when he was a child then later, during his adolescence, the medical people pressured our parents into having all sorts of surgery done on my brother, constructing a right outer ear from skin taken from his neck and so forth. He went through a lot of pain and emotional stress. In fact, if it had not been for the Catholic Church providing him with a spiritual "anchor", I fear to even think what might have happened, that he might have done himself in at some point. Anyway, about a couple of years ago, my brother happened to be in the hospital for some sort of infection and the physicians asked if, while he was in the hospital, my brother would like them to use the more advanced imaging technology they have now to see if there was actually inner ear parts which would have made constructing an ear canal an option and so forth. Well, we were startled to learn that while there was a sort of small inner ear chamber, there were no inner ear parts. He was born without them on the right side, so all of the surgery he had as a child was totally pointless. He has one good ear which is very sensitive (when he would get his good ear cleaned out at times, he would sometimes complain to me that he could hear all sorts of things both inside and outside, birds and animals and people talking way off from our house - used to drive ME nuts, ha, ha). Anyway, point being, if whatever they can do for Paula surgically will not make a radical improvement in her well being and will have risks to it, potential discomfort for low yield possible good results, if it was me, I would just suggest that she live with it and adapt as best she can. Over the years, I have seen various needless suffering when good intentions of parents and physicians just made things worse and it would have been better if the child or young person just adapted to their situation instead of going through all the stress and pain of medical procedures[not saying this is what you are doing, just what other parents have done at times although, usually, their intentions were good]. All this in my humble opinion. May God bless and guide you all! Last edited on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 08:13 am by EMarshallBuckles
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cathmom wrote: I have a new request, please. I am asking prayers for my youngest child, Paula. We just found out this past week that she has scoliosis. She will be going for an MRI (to make sure there is no spinal cord involvement) on 9/24 and then a dr. follow up on 9/30.
Dear Marian, my daughter had curvature of the spine (scoliosis) which adversely effected her posture. After reviewing the x-rays and talking with the doctors, we opted for her to have the spinal fusion. At that time she was 13 going on 14 in a few months. She had excellent surgeons. The primary surgeon was trained by the original surgeon who had invented and improved upon this operation. The original surgeon was very old when we met him. She was admitted to the Shriner's Hospital in Philadelphia and had EXCELLENT care. I stayed with her the whole time. She was admitted on a Tues. morning and the operation lasted for about 4 - 5 hours. By Friday morning, she was up and walking around! The nurses and doctors were amazed at her recovery. She was an ice skater and had to stop skating due to the operation. This was an emotional hurdle for her, but she got through it. She also had other limitations placed on her for certain periods of time. There are some things she will never be able to do such as sky dive, ride on most roller coasters, horseback riding and bungie jumping. However, the operation has only improved her quality of life. Her posture improved drastically overnight. In our daughter's case, without the spinal fusion, she would have several health complications during the span of her life development.
Please also pray for strength for me and my family as we face this new
challenge. Please ask that God direct us to the people who will help our
daughter.
I understand your anxiety. I don't know the specifics in your daughter's case, but in ours, we have no regrets. In fact, over 14 years later, our daughter is in excellent health and the incision on her back, which was over 12 inches long, has almost faded to obscurity.
May God the Lord be with you in your dicision making.
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Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 09:25 pm |
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Dear Christine,
Thank you so much for your prayers and sharing your experience.
We are not jumping on the bandwagon for surgery either. Our dd is not having pain (praise God!) right now. Of course, we will have to wait til she has the MRI to see if there's anything that needs to be taken care of immediately. Our thoughts are that if she's not in pain, why borrow trouble? It would be another thing altogether if she had problems.
Also, please continue to pray for my oldest dd--the one involved with the man twice her age and twice- divorced pagan. My dd informed me today that at the beginning of October they are going away to Greece together.  She has told me there is no marriage or engagement on the horizon. They just want to have fun.
I know I could not bear up without the prayers offered by the members of this forum.
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Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 09:29 pm |
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Thank you for your prayers and input, too.
I posted to Christine before I read all of the posts, but I do thank you for taking the time to share your experiences.
God bless you!
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Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 09:33 pm |
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Dear Darlene,
Thank you for sharing your experiences with me. It's good to know that if surgery does seem indicated by the MRI, that it can have a positive outcome.
Thank you, too, for your prayers. This is all so new to us that we really are seeking God to lead us to the people we need to be in touch with to help us with our daughter.
Her attitude is good, and she is not currently in pain, so we will wait and see what the MRI indicates and what the dr. says. Also, my dh's insurance would want a second opinion if surgery were indicated, so that will also play into what happens.
I am so thankful for the members of this forum!\
God bless.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16th, 2008 08:33 pm |
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Hi Marian --
I will keep you and your daughter in my prayers. My daughter also has scoliosis but never wore a brace (her bones had already started to fuse by the time it was found) and has never had any pain or other issues related to it. We monitor it, but it hasn't changed significantly. You notice it slightly when you look at her from the back, or when she bends over, but she's not self conscious about it and doesn't really even think about it.
There may come a time later that she will need surgery, but we also want to put it off for as long as possible if it's not necessary.
God bless you!
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Thank you, Didi.
I know each case is an individual one. I'm glad to hear that your daughter is doing well.
Thanks again to all for your prayers.
May God bless all of you!
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Hi Marian,
My wife Judy has serious scoliosis (51% or something). She did wear a brace all the way through high school, which was difficult, to put it mildly. It was so serious that she wound up being 5'2" instead of 5'6" if she hadn't had it. I don't believe she ever had any surgery.
She used to have a great deal of pain, but believes that there was a supernatural healing of much of that, some years ago. Every case is different, I guess, but if you'd like to talk to her about it, feel free to drop me a PM.
I think these days my back hurts even more than hers, with my incessant writing and only sporadic exercise.  I call it "writer's back." Sort of like "tennis elbow."
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Posted: Fri Sep 19th, 2008 01:51 am |
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Dear Dave,
Thank you for your post and your prayers.
I may take you up on that offer of the PM to your wife at a later time.
Everyone has been so wonderful, especially with their offer of prayers. I will keep everyone posted.
Right now, we're set for the MRI on 9/24 and the follow up on 9/30. I've also been researching other doctors to get more than one opinion for my daughter. So far one of those who has had good recommendations has offered to give a second opinion if we want one. The big thing will be to get the appointment in a timely manner. He said to come in, but getting past the people who make the appointments is another thing.
So thanks for the prayers and keep on prayin'!
God bless to all!
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Posted: Fri Sep 19th, 2008 02:41 am |
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Marian,
I will keep both of your daughters in my prayers.
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I'm just checking in to see how things are going with you, Cathmom. You are right in saying that each case must be looked at on an individual basis. In our daughter's case, we were told by surgeons who had been doing this operation for many years, that she would have serious problems if she did not have the surgery. IOW, in her case a back brace would have done nothing to improve her spine.
When the doctors showed us the x-rays, we could see how crooked her spine actually was. At that point, we knew how serious her scoliosis was. And we knew that she would have what generically is called a "hump back" in her middle age, which would result in all sorts of serious health problems. We had the benefit of top notch physicians from Shriners and the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia giving us reliable data.
Dave, I can understand what you say about your wife's height. Our daughter immediately grew 2 inches after the surgery! She is now about 5' 5". If she hadn't had the surgery, she would only be about 5' 1." And worse, she would have very bad posture, which would contribute to additional health problems. There have been great strides made in this field since the time your wife was a teenager.
Keep us posted, Marian. And feel free to pm me of any concerns/questions you might have.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 09:49 pm |
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Hello Marion 
I'm still holding your daughter up in prayer. My scoliosis was just about a 40 degree curve...which was enough. My neck was involved which caused me much pain, but the vertebrae finally actually fused themselves together...so my pain stopped there, but it took years. I believe it was answered prayer though that I finally had relief.
After 40 years of this I'm having pain all along my left side which is "crunched". It's not too bad unless I've been too active for my age! I'm so glad you have options to consider...from what Darlene and others have said, your daughter will be fine. God is Good. And He uses good doctors.
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Posted: Sun Sep 21st, 2008 09:54 pm |
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Thank you, Bill!
All prayers are very much appreciated.
My youngest will go for her MRI this Wednesday, then we have a follow up the next week.
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Posted: Sun Sep 21st, 2008 09:57 pm |
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Thanks again, Darlene.
I will PM you if I have any questions. So far we are looking into other surgeons who have been mentioned on the scoliosis board run by the National Scoliosis Foundation.
I thank everyone for their prayers. We are asking God to direct us to the right people who can help our daughter and also that we will be able to pay for this (right now our insurance covers a limited amount of practitioners).
Take care, all!
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Thank you, Christine Ann.
Right now we are praying for a good report on her MRI (on 9/24) and we will need to see what the first doctor says.
We are also looking for doctors who will be able to follow her through this and monitor it.
As I said previously, God is good in helping us find recommendations of doctors--so that is a big relief, especially when this diagnosis is thrown at you and you have nothing else to go on.
God bless to all!
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cathmom wrote: Hello, all.
It's been a while since I've posted. I want to thank you all for your prayers for my oldest daughter who is still involved with the neopagan. That situation has not yet been resolved, but I was starting to find some peace in placing it in God's Hands and trusting that He would bring her back to the Church in His time.
I have a new request, please. I am asking prayers for my youngest child, Paula. We just found out this past week that she has scoliosis. She will be going for an MRI (to make sure there is no spinal cord involvement) on 9/24 and then a dr. follow up on 9/30.
I am very concerned as her curve is a moderate one. The dr. we saw said
that she would not be a candidate for a brace as she has finished growing.
So one option may be surgery.
Please also pray for strength for me and my family as we face this new
challenge. Please ask that God direct us to the people who will help our
daughter.
God bless you all and thank you!
Hi, Marian.
Like a few others on here, when I was in high school, I found out I had a moderate case of Scoliosis, myself. I, too, was told that I had already finished growing and that a brace would not help. Honestly, I don't remember any mention of surgery... all I do know is that I never had it. I think there was the supposition that I could live with the Scoliosis. And I have. I'll be honest. Sometimes it can be a pain - not literally a pain, really, but more of a nuisance. Maybe it's because I'm sort of "O.C." (Anybody ever watch that TV show "Monk"? - well, let's just say that my family sometimes teases me and they call me "Mrs. Monk." OK, I'm not as bad as he is, but... you get the picture). Anyway, maybe the fact that I'm such an "Even Steven" type sometimes makes me more aware that I'm a little... crooked. Most of the time, though, except when I see a picture of myself or look in a mirror and get persnickety about my slightly unbalanced posture, I live with it without too much of a problem.
I have always heard that back surgery is nothing to mess around with, and that often it can cause more problems than it's worth - not to mention the expense. I'm not going to tell you what to do, but if your daughter can live with it, I think leaving it alone is a viable option. Of course, if it's so bad that it could cause internal problems, there's obviously more to consider.
But if it's not life-threatening, try not to worry too much. Worry often tends to spread. When I found out about my Scoliosis, I don't remember my parents getting too worked up about it, so maybe that's why I don't even think about it much. Now I think of it as being just part of who I am, like my snub nose or my brown eyes or the age spots that are starting to appear (OK, that bothers me just a little... . I don't think I'm taking the aging thing as gracefully as I should, maybe  ).
Anyway, whatever you decide, I'll be praying for you - and for your daugther - that you all have peace about this new challenge in your life.
JMJ
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Thanks for taking the time to post your story and for your prayers, Cheri.
My dd is the trooper out of the bunch!
Her MRI testing went well. Now it's just waiting to talk to the doctor on Tuesday.
I have to share that when I was feeling nervous on Wednesday during her testing, I started to pray to my dd's guardian angel when I felt in my spirit the words, "I got it covered." Then I remembered that my dd has a *lot* of favorite saints, and I just felt they were praying for her as well. That, in turn, prompted me to remember all the intercessors here on earth who were praying for her too!
Everyone's prayers are being heard as we are being led to find doctors who specialize in scoliosis so we are have options in case the doctor on Tuesday suggests surgery.
And. . .my husband informed us that starting in January, his employer will be changing health insurance plans which will enable us to see some of the better specialists that,
up til now, would have been very difficult to pay for under our current insurance.
Thanks, again, to one and all for caring and praying, especially for one whom you've never met.
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SUPER! Wow, those requests called "prayers" -- They sure work!  Last edited on Fri Sep 26th, 2008 09:21 pm by Steven Barrett
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Thank you for your prayers. My dd's MRI came back clean--no internal problems with her organs or spinal cord.
Yet when we had the meeting with the doctor on Tuesday, he recommended surgery for my youngest child.
We have 2 more appointments with other specialists this coming week so we can hear what they have to say.
We are praying that one or the other will be open to monitoring her curve progression. It looks very likely that her curve will progress, but we are just not comfortable with the surgery route. The doctor we met with seemed too eager to just start cutting. He downplayed the hospital stay time, her recovery time,etc.--nothing like what I have read about on the scoliosis boards.
Right now our insurance is fighting us because we are checking out "out of network" doctors. Thanks be to God that dh's insurance will change in January!
Also, oldest dd left for NYC tonight to catch the flight to Greece tomorrow. I spoke with her briefly before she left and I told her that I would be praying for her and I loved her. I also told her that God loved her, and she got very quiet when I said that.
I ask your prayers also for her safety during this trip. Maybe God will deal with her during this trip. I cannot verbalize the heartbreak I feel at her choices.
I ask that, in your charity, you continue to pray for my children.
Thank you!
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