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paulr
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Posted: Fri Jan 4th, 2008 02:14 pm |
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The Serenellians
A Catholic Apostolate for the Sexually Addicted
Mission Statement
The Serenellians are an apostolate established for the singular purpose of providing an organized means and resource with which to confront, address and counter the problems of impurity and moral corruption in our society today, a spiritual army formed to do battle against the insidious evil of pornography and minister to those suffering from its effects and consequences.
Purpose
Serenellians work by means of ministry, prayer, and fellowship to reach out to the many hardhearted and suffering of our society – those who suffer as a consequence of pornography, assisting both individuals and their loved ones, for their conversion and salvation, conveying to them by mutual support and example, the boundless Mercy and Compassion of God.
We are Catholic in our focus and in our spirituality, looking to God through His Grace and His Sacraments to assist us in our endeavors.
http://www.PornNoMore.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 4th, 2008 10:45 pm |
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Thank you, Paul.
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Candlemass
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Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 02:13 pm |
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wmschrader
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Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 02:26 pm |
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Steve Wood's http://www.dads.org is an excellent resource
http://www.dads.org/strugglewithporn.asp
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brian
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Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2008 10:51 pm |
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Something that seemd a bit too edgy but had some interesting ideas was XXXchurch. Not a Catholic organization and they actually went and did some crazy things, but I think they have an accountability program where any time you view something pornographic a few people you select are notified via e-mail and therfore the addict knows that nothing is being done in secret without prayers and people knowing about it.
However, as a Catholic I would think confession would be one of the most powerful tools in dealing with such a problem and maybe talking to tohers about it.
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Candlemass
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Posted: Tue Feb 12th, 2008 04:01 am |
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| Has anyone here ever heard of Laurie Hall? She wrote the book "An Affair of the Mind." She tell her story of her husbands addiction to porn, I heard at some point she became a Catholic?
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Candlemass
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Posted: Tue Feb 12th, 2008 02:07 pm |
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http://www.sa.org/
A fellowship of men and women from all walks of life.
True Eros:
http://www.christopherwest.com/page.asp?ContentID=67
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EMarshallBuckles
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Posted: Tue Feb 12th, 2008 03:23 pm |
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Those look like great web pages to help people addicted to pornography. I am glad that they are out there for those who need them. One thing I would like to see those organizations do is to contact the various purveyors of pornography (which would probably be a big job given all the numerous porno web pages which are apparently out there) and to ask them to include links to these organizations on their web pages. Of course, some of them would reject the request, however, some of them might include it. I would also like to see our nation require the various pornographic web sites to create a "pornography net", seperate from the Internet, and for them to make it only accessible via pass codes after age and ID have been verified by those who subscribe to it, so it would further restrict access to it to adults who pay for it.
And, yes, it would be preferable for pornograph to not exist at all. That would be my preference. Even so, even if a huge effort was mounted to get rid of pornography and even if people were cooperating, it would still take a long time to get rid of it in it's online forms as well as in it's printed forms and videotape and, nowadays, DVD forms. I think that the above mentioned organizations are wonderful and highly commend their work, yet, even so, I think that more efforts need to be made to stop pornography by stopping the demand for it in the first place. Parents need to teach their children that sexual exploitation and sexual abuse of others is WRONG, that it is SINFUL. The churches and synagogues and mosques need to emphasize this as well as the secular, philosophical and social organizations. The President of the United States, our Governors and legislators need to stand up, in public, and say that sexual exploitation and sexual abuse of others is WRONG. My wife is a Child Protective Services Social Worker of nearly 30 years standing. While she cannot and does not violate confidentiality, I am aware, in an appropriate manner, that she has many, many times had to deal with sexual abuse of children and young people, working with the Police as she does so. It is often a hidden problem and is a VERY extensive problem which has grown steadily worse! It needs to be STOPPED! We also, as a society, need to bring back punishments for adultery. This doesn't mean that the law enforcement people would have to go around searching for it but that if someone is commiting adultery, their spouse could file serious criminal and civil charges against the spouse and the one committing adultery with their spouse. We need to get rid of "no fault divorces". Those seeking divorces should be encouraged to reconcile if at all possible, however, if someone's spouse just will not remain faithful, or if someone just will not leave one's spouse alone, then there should be a possibility that legal action can be taken. This does not mean that Catholics or other Christian groups would be encouraged or required to use these available legal actions, however, they would be available if someone needed them and the mere PRESENCE of such available legal actions on the law books would cause many people to decide against taking that step of adulterous behavior. Children and young people need to be protected and those who would sexually abuse them need to be FORCED to STOP. Our nation and states also need to make spread of curable sexully transmitted diseases serious misdemeanors and spread of incurable sexually transmitted diseases a felony. Also, many mental health and social work personnel have long felt that it was a great mistake for our nation to do away with so called "status offenses" for minors and that these need to be brought back and parents given the authority and requirement to, in a non-abusive manner, be able to control their children and teenagers. I have long felt that our nation also made a serious mistake in lowering the age of majority to age 18 and that it needs to go back to age 21, where the tobacco use and alcohol use ages are now and that the age for consent for sexual relations needs to be at age 21 as well. Our young people need to be taught to spend their younger years concentrating on their educations and being allowed to grow up safely and in a mentally healthy manner instead of being abused and forced into an early sexuality as is now often the case. At my old elementary school, the school motto was "Character is Above Intellect". I have long believed that to be true and our schools, public and private, need to work on building good character in our children and teenagers. Well, I could go on for many pages like this, so I will stop now, however, getting pornography stopped is one of the best things our nation could ever accomplish next to establishing ourselves as a Christian nation with respect for our Jewish brothers and sisters as well.
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Candlemass
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Posted: Tue Feb 12th, 2008 03:37 pm |
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Shelley Lubben is such a person who is fighting porn in many ways, herself an ex-porn star, is reaching out to those trapped in it's clutches as well as those trapped in the industry.
http://www.shelleylubben.com/index.php?truth=home
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Connie
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Posted: Thu Feb 21st, 2008 08:26 pm |
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Yes, thank you.
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Excellent posting, and thanks from a guy who just covered this miserable topic in part in a book I've just finished. While watching Nightline last night, which featured a debate at Yale over porn, I couldn't help thinking how debauched so many young and otherwise intelligent people have become due to this adult sexual entertainment slavery complex.
With apologies to country and western artist Steve Wariner (I think it's him), who sang "if the devil danced in empty heads and souls, he'd have a a ball at Yale." And to think Yale produced Jonathan Edwards and William F. Buckley, Jr.
Keep up the great witness!
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Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 04:44 pm |
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Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 05:03 pm |
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Candlemass wrote: How did that debate turn out? I had my last show w/the band that night, so I missed it, I remember hearing Ron Jeremy saying he was gonna "slam dunk" Craig.
For what it's worth, and it ain't worth much, you can see ABC's take at it on http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4320649&page=1
I just can't imagine Ron Jeremy in his birthday suit. That has to be right up there with Pig Sty frolics...
Oh!...no offense Kermie.
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Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 08:23 pm |
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| I think Craig and his ministry are doing a good thing, they've helped many addicts and some trapped in the industry get out. As far as the debate, I imagine it got some people thinking. Last edited on Wed Mar 5th, 2008 08:27 pm by Candlemass
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Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 09:25 pm |
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The young pastor said something to the effect that at 5'4" Jeremy wasn't going to be doing a lot of slam dunking.
Jeremy seemed to be a rather sad and pathetic figure. I've had my run ins with that type all too often, not regarding his line of business, but in general. Hate to say it, but given the kind of personality he displayed on the tube that night, in sharp contrast to the good guys, even the woman on his side and of course, Martin Bashir of ABC News, Jeremy was way out of his league. Porn seems to be as good as it gets for guys like him.
Not that I wish him success. Could there be anything drearier than this element within the film business? Lots of glitter no doubt; but what dross!
Jeremy and his dreamy looking side-kick seemed completely oblivious to the sufferings of the actresses they've run across over their years in this racket because they couldn't wait to diss when a former porn producer said a lot of people when they look at the films don't know about the girls getting into fetal positions and sucking their thumbs following a "shoot."
You'd think that'd shut the Eli's up, but no. Welcome to the brave new world of libertarian thinking on campuses. We weren't angels when I went to St. Thomas Univ. in Miami, and I especially wasn't, and that was back in 1970-74. But things sure seem to have gotten even further afield.
What bugs me most about all this infatuation with porn is that it debases a person's complete (i.e.individually and psychologically global) sense of innocence in his or her life. I've seen what this kind of infatuation with a overhyped and revved up sense of wanting sex for its own "excitement" (which the bums like R. Jeremy et al are all too willing to provide for a pretty penny) do to people I used to know, poss. even a woman, and it's not pretty.
BUT, lo and behold, WE WILL have the last laugh when that adult industrial sex slave complex collapses on itself. All we have to do is follow the leads of the people who practically drummed any "respectability" out of social smoking, and other campaigns, etc. Another key here is to link arms with the legal eagles and pastors, university presidents and diplomats seeking to wipe the international slave trades of our times out of business.
It doesn't take a lot of rocket science to figure out where Jeremy's girls are culled from. And how long do you think it'll take before the college kids, tomorrow's leaders, will put up with this kind of silent, albeit, "pleasant to watch" torture continue going on when more people get to learn the bigger picture? He doesn't put out films glorifying water-boarding, which isn't exactly a popular item on campuses, etc. across the country. But other forms of torture, some of which I understand would look even worse on screen, is tolerated and used on young women being trafficked out of Russia, the Ukraine, Mexico, and our own home towns.
Here's a scenario the Jeremys of this world don't want to own up to: at some time a young girl's virtue is violated, she's molested by some male in her household, perhaps her dad, a brother, uncle, "trusted friend," and for the rest of her life, she feels trashed, tarnished, less valuable and unworthy of enjoying a lifetime spent with a real decent man. Even if she finds one, she backs off, breaks it off and leaves the guy hanging his head for months or years afterwatds asking himself "what happened." He'll never know why from her for obvious reasons.
In the meantime, the girl grows, finally finds a young man, and settles in a quick relationship with a child soonafter. The marriage folds because she's still unable to deal with the past and her husband can't deal with her inability to deal with it all. So, he might treat her like dirt, which she's been feeling like for a long time anyway. From there it's a short drop out of a marriage into a life descending into sexual chaos, prostitution and the lure of much more money performing in porn, especially if she manages to keep her self looking film-worthy. But, there's a catch: drugs, meth, which eventually eats these girls out from within even though they take it to stay productive on the porn production line. And God or a plastic surgeon alone knows what this gal and/or others in similar situations have had done to keep them "marketable"?
Eventually the Rod Jeremy's put these gals out of his orbit and their on their own. Well, how many quarters have they earned for SS disability/retirement, etc.? No safety net in Jeremy's world, that's got to be for sure.
I hope to God the scenario I presented was too far off the wall; but I'm afraid not.
If you want to get the ball rolling to kill off Jeremy's empire of sleaze, get a hold of your Rep. in COngress or Senator and urge him or her to get behind any legislation coming out of the late Tom Lantos' Cmte. on Foreign Affairs as it pertains to killing the human trafficking rackets.
I'm immensely proud that Msgr. Franklyn Casale, president of my alma mater, St. Thomas Univ. has proposed what he and STU's Law School called the Miami Agreement (I'm having a pre-senior moment here--hey I'm a 74 grad!), which if put into law--with sharply biting teeth, not the usual Foggy Bottom compromise lingo--will go a long way to putting the Jeremy's out of business. Let him go hungry on the streets for some time.
This isn't just a matter of hearth and home and protecting our dearest loved ones from sordid lives on the screens, "bedrooms," and unfortunately strip clubs, brothels and streets. This goes wider. Hell, we've got a national security problem here. This porn goes out on the web and instantly its all around the world. No wonder our Muslim "friends" just love us to death. I bet the Mexican and other L.American parents are just jumping with joy knowing how secure their kids will be here. And what do we think parents of young girls in the Ukraine, Russia, Poland and other former Soviet dominated nations must be thinking about us as a nation? Sure, their Mafia of ex-KGB boyos are running the funnelling of girls but it's our legal system that's failing everyone by not being strong enough to get the job done.
And it it's not just a matter of State and Justice Departments getting their heads together. What about the DOEd, etc? More importantly, what about the churches, of all denominations? It's time we got everyone to face up to what the Jeremy's are up to and not be afraid to say these magic words, "To hell with being afraid of looking judgmental."
Jeremy maybe too short to slam dunk any basketball, but he can be put out of business with a full-court press. Hey, it's March Madness. Let the fun begin. Start by calling the late Tom Lantos' Committee office and then grab your Rep./Senators' ears and go from there.
Many of us might've lost a good friend to the sleaze trade Jeremy's notorious for, but we can at least do something good in their memory by taking some of the modest steps I've suggested in this posting. Hated to go on this long, but this topic hit home last year while trying to write a book and I simply had to move on (to keep my sanity intact.) Boy, can it really get you if you let it, but we don't have to allow that to happen and we can instead GET to Jeremy.
That sounds a lot better. Sure'll lead to more genuinely romantic film endings and fewer of our kids losing their innocence and virtue, not to mention would-be better lives.  Bashir probably thought he went on a fool's errand that night, but over time, he might enjoy the satisifaction of knowing the debate he pulled off and televised may have done far more good than he could've ever imagined possible.
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