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Steven Barrett
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Posted: Thu Apr 26th, 2007 02:34 pm |
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My my, PBS put on a show last night with its Tales of the Dead (correct title?) series, with the subject more or less being how the Protesants liberated the Bible from that mean old Catholic Church. Or as the script (narrated by Liev Schreiber) put it "Roman Catholic Church." If there was any Catholic included it might've been a professor from Louvain, with the famous institution in Belgium serving as a clue for the audience to figure out from.
This was Protestant sectarian shamelessness' "Show Time!" if there ever was one. Why it even included three stake burnings of Tyndale, Cramner and Wycliff's carcass (for graphic emphasis) to bring home the point out that Catholicism thoroughly distrusted the faithful English (et al) and would do anything to preserve its "monopoly" of scriptural interpretation prior to the Reformation. We know this is false, but it sure makes for interesting TV.
I could see something this amateurish on one of the cable shows, but on PBS which is supposed to avoid offending the very public it's supposed to serve in a non-sectarian and unbiased fashion?
The show even botched up the Plymouth landing by portraying it as a "Puritan" affair. The Pilgrims, not their Puritan cousins wrote up the Mayflower Compact and founded Plimouthe Plantation. What was even funnier was that the Puritans were depicted as fighters for religious freedom. Well, they failed to mention that the Puritans had also failed to mention religious freedom for Baptists, Anglicans and of course, those "savages," the Irish Papists, I mean, not the Wampanoags, whom the Puritans managed to nearly wipe out during King Philips' War.
Hopefully others have seen this nonsense and will offer their insights.
It was a purely Waspish display of our tax dollars at work against our very selves. Especially Recusant English Catholics and Irish Catholics, and we all know very well how the freedom fighers of Cromwell treated the Irish, not to mention their American cousins when the Irish reached their ever so precious New England shores!
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Darlene
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Posted: Thu Apr 26th, 2007 07:48 pm |
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Any mention of the Salem Witch trials on this waspish series? I find it puzzling why PBS, which usually totes a rather liberal viewpoint, would air a show that sheds a positive light on Christianity of any persuasion. Is it becoming more fashionable these days to bash Catholicism? In other words, is anti-Catholicism becoming more trendy or has it always been popular to bash the Papists? Just curious.
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Steven Barrett
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Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 01:46 am |
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Darlene,
Cross your fingers whenever PBS puts any show about religion on its schedule. Depending on the content, holding your nose might be needed too.
This was as sectarian as it could be: against the big bad "Roman Catholic Church," so as to distinguish it from those ever so proper English Protestant Catholics. As I pointed out above, why even those stalwarts of religious freedom, the Puritans, got a free pass. Free alright. Free of any mention of that Yankee Protestant Inquisition in Salem, yet it ignored the real authors of the Mayflower Compact (Pilgrims) and made the Puritans look like the freedom fighters they never were or wanted to be.
Perhaps I missed it, but I also think the show was free of any mention of the Cromwellite pogrom in Ireland or the Scottish Presbyterian Plantation in Ulster, a boil on the Irish soul that festered untill this very month.
It was a total whitewash for those intellectually astute and theologically curious Protestants and would-be Protestants that so valiantly fought the big bad Catholic establishment over the Bible. In the interest of fairness, you would think that the scriptwriters would've mentioned that Luther was all too eager to dumb down whatever in the Bible he thought would tax the minds of the (not-so-eager) masses when he attempted to chuck St. James Epistle out of the Canon. I think that epistle had something in it about works that contradicted the "sola fide" that contradicts scripture.
Actually, every (serioius) Catholic historian or writer and historian/writer wannabe should have a copy of this ... well, I'll keep my vulgarities in check ... as a teaching tool. And every Protestant should be ashamed of it and do what they can to have it buried along with nuclear waste material.
It's that radioactive--for conscientious Protestants. For us it's a good laugh and reminder that those Know-Nothings of years past still know little or nothing almost two centuries later.
On the brighter side, at least they didn't grab any of the dissenting Catholics like Crossan, Sobrino or Curran to provide "balance." I suppose even PBS has miminal standards it can't sink below.
Perhaps the only thing goofier was watching George W. do his "Malaria Dance" yesterday. What a coincidence! PBS puts on a show that dances around the truth, and W. shows that WASP men still can't dance.
"Our tax dollars 'at work.'" 
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Steven Barrett
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Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 02:56 am |
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PBS has company lately when it comes to Catholic bashing. I've attached a column written by Chuck Colson about an anti-Catholic cartoon that appeared in the Phila. Inquirer lately.  I'd give the paper a whole bush full of raspberries. TO reach this column, just type in Colson, Breakpoint. That should get you going in the right direction.
There is some good news to report. Rosie O'Donnell is history (again.) If he goes back on air, I'll bet even Imus won't be caught repeating the same mistake. Rosie never seems to learn. Poor lass.
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Annie
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Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 10:14 am |
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Steven Barrett
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Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 01:26 pm |
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Surely you can muster up something stronger than that in response to the PBSs, O'Donnells and anti-catholic cartoonists in that bubble known as the media.
Besides, I've never seen how any form of moral relativism, especially concerning religious history and politic, ever managed to motivate enough people to take strong stands against bigotry and similar mortal sins.
I'm willing to go along with you insofar with regards to a lot blood being shed in Christian history. Let's not forget that a lot of that blood was ours.
Yes, our interreligious wars during the Reformation, for example, and the recent Troubles in No. Ireland, come to mind as lessons we must heed lest we keep on going down that path again and again.
On the other hand it's simply immoral to ignore the fact that more Christians (in all branches) have been martyred during the past 100-plus years than during all of the 19 centuries before it. Is Christianity to be held mostly responsible, or even relatively responsible for such carnage against Christians?
Bolsheviks, Stalinists, Nazis, Fascists, post WWII Communists, Maoists and of more recent vintage, Muslims, have all taken their best shots at Chrisitianity and succeeded all too well when it came to shedding -- our blood. When the Lord said to turn the other cheek, He wasn't addressing international problems, just how individuals must treat each other. True, an eye for an eye doesn't settle anything. But we live in a horribly nasty world where people who don't give two cents for any Christian teachings for "waging peace" gladly siphon off their national treasuries to buy more arms so they can attack us with. Yes, US arms merchants have blood on its hands for this, but so do a lot of arms merchants from other other countries: a lot more.
I strongly urge you to take a look at a recent column written by former US Senator Fred Thompson regarding moral & religious historical relativism. While I don't have the exact computer address on hand, you can find it in Townhall.com or Thompson's own blog, the Fred Thompson Report. It was dated Ap. 26th.
"Tolle Legge" Take up and read! (Or chose to ignore the harsh realities of the world we live in and pay the piper for our ignorance.)
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