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Intercessor
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Posted: Wed Nov 21st, 2007 12:44 am |
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My Bible study group left a little while ago. We were discussing Galatians 4. I hadn't intended to do Galatians. I wanted to do Ephesians. Scott Hahn put the two books together in his series, however; so we're doing both.
Man, what a dynamic, intense discussion we had tonight. I am a bit drained. We were discussing the Hagar/Sarah allegory. It's so strange not to operate on automatic pilot in Paul's letters. Now I'm having to filter everything through the Catechism. I used to marvel at the guests on Journey Home who sort of went blank when asked questions about Scripture. I thought, "Don't you know your Bible?" Now I understand the "deer in the headlights" expression they had.
Also verse 6--God sent the spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying out, "Abba, Father!"
Formerly, I used that verse with ladies needing assurance of salvation. I would ask did they not feel God's spirit in their hearts assuring them that they were His children. Three Catholics whom I deeply respect have advised me not to put as much emphasis on feelings as Protestants do. What is a good Catholic to do with verse 6? Last edited on Wed Nov 21st, 2007 01:02 am by Intercessor
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"If our charity is arrested by the difficulties encountered in dealing with our neighbor, . . . our relations with our brethren are not regulated by our love of God, but by our love of self." Divine Intimacy p. 781, Fr. Gabriel, O.C.D.
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David W. Emery
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Posted: Wed Nov 21st, 2007 02:34 am |
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The words “Abba, Father” represent the fact of divine filiation. It is achieved through the indwelling of the holy Trinity in the soul. The fact is primary; emotion is secondary — a side effect, as it were, of the reality. The emphasis on feeling is not necessary if we understand that the reality has precedence.
Following are some links on divine filiation that may prove useful.
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Intercessor
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Posted: Wed Nov 21st, 2007 03:27 am |
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CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Supernatural Adoption
"that intimate and mysterious communion with Christ, and through Him with God, is the glory of our adopted sonship"
It is this sort of communion (an awareness of it and a rejoicing in its intimacy) that has reassured me that I am a child of God. Obviously, one also needs to be operating out of the intellect and out of the will, must be obedient to Church teaching, and must be in a state of grace. It would also be important to remember that depression or a dark night of the soul could temporarily cloud or block one's awareness of that communion.
Perhaps there are Protestants who have operated far too heavily on emotion alone. I don't believe I have been in that camp. The feeling has just been part of the package of intellect, will, obedience.
Uncomfortable "feeling" (conviction in Baptist terminology) has also been part of the package in a situation of disobedience or slowness to respond.
Thanks, David. I especially like the Opus Dei article. Powerful stuff.Last edited on Wed Nov 21st, 2007 03:32 am by Intercessor
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"If our charity is arrested by the difficulties encountered in dealing with our neighbor, . . . our relations with our brethren are not regulated by our love of God, but by our love of self." Divine Intimacy p. 781, Fr. Gabriel, O.C.D.
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