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Jimmy Brousseau
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Posted: Fri Feb 22nd, 2008 04:20 pm |
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Which bible do you use?
Which study bible is best for Catholics to use?
I primarily, use the New American Bible (NAB) and The Catholic Study Bible (NAB)
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Posted: Fri Feb 22nd, 2008 06:03 pm |
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Jimmy Brousseau wrote: Which bible do you use?
Which study bible is best for Catholics to use?
I primarily, use the New American Bible (NAB) and The Catholic Study Bible (NAB)
The best bible is the one you will read.
I have used the Catholic Study Bible and it's fine. I always use the NAB for group studies, but for personal study I prefer either the RSV-CE2 or the original Jerusalem Bible.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23rd, 2008 01:20 am |
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Hi, Jimmy. Welcome to the forum.
I use the Navarre Bible and Scott Hahn's Catholic Ignatius Study Bible to get input from the Catechism and Church Fathers.
I continue to use the study helps sections in my Protestant Bibles:
NIV Thompson Chain Reference Bible
NIV Study Bible
I keep the NAB handy for accuracy in translation.
For personal devotional reading I often use J.B. Phillips' The New Testament in Modern English.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23rd, 2008 03:05 am |
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An interesting Bible that has recently come on the scene is Richard Foster's Renovare Bible. Believe it or not, it contains the Deutero-canonicals. They still call them the aprocrypha, but at least they accept them as worthy documents. Foster is a contemplative after the Quaker tradition. He has some good stuff, but is too heavily influenced by some of what I believe is the eastern zen type of meditation based on a lot of Merton's writings. The Bible is the NRSV version with the gender inclusive which I think is not the best. I've spoken a couple of times to Richard when he came to our church for a Renovare conference. He uses a lot references to the Fathers of the Catholic church and is very warm to Catholics. I asked him point blank, if he liked the Catholic practices so much, why doesn't he just go over. His answer was a vague, "I just feel God wants me to grow where I'm planted.
Pray for Richard. He could be a great value to Catholics. He is heavily influence by many Catholic writers.
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Posted: Tue Feb 26th, 2008 08:55 pm |
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| RSV all the way, but I have about 25 Bible versions and consult them when doing a serious study on something. I actually read most of the Bible for the first time, when I was Protestant, in the NASB version.
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Posted: Tue Feb 26th, 2008 11:34 pm |
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Jimmy Brousseau wrote:
JMJ
Which bible do you use?
I like the RSV2-CE. BUT THE PRINT IS TOO SMALL for my old eyes!
So, I use the large print NAB. How do I dislike the NAB? Let me count the ways. Here's one example from the NAB. The 23rd Psalm:
The Lord is my shepherd;
there is nothing I lack.
In green pastures you let me graze;
to safe waters you lead me;
you restore my strength...
...You get the idea. It doesn't get better. GRAZE?:X Are we cows?
Sorry, I'm venting.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 01:46 am |
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JasPax wrote: How do I dislike the NAB? Let me count the ways. Here's one example from the NAB. The 23rd Psalm:
The Lord is my shepherd;
there is nothing I lack.
In green pastures you let me graze;
to safe waters you lead me;
you restore my strength...
The worst line in this is the last one. Maybe it's a more accurate translation - who knows? But where I'm used to reading "and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever" the NAB reads "I will dwell in the house of the Lord for years to come."
Ugh.
I use chili rellenos as the test of a good Mexican restaurant and I use the 23rd Psalm as the test of a translation I like.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 03:28 am |
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JillD wrote: JasPax wrote: How do I dislike the NAB? Let me count the ways. Here's one example from the NAB. The 23rd Psalm:
The Lord is my shepherd;
there is nothing I lack.
In green pastures you let me graze;
to safe waters you lead me;
you restore my strength...
The worst line in this is the last one. Maybe it's a more accurate translation - who knows? Nope. The Hebrew is "naphshi yeshuvav". Naphshi literally means "my soul". Yeshuvav literally means "he returns". The Hebrew root of this word "shuv" = "return" is used in many nuanced ways. Here it means "he returns" my soul to its original (undamaged) state, or "he restores". So, "He restores my soul" seems the best translation to me. I sometimes wonder if the NAB is translated the way it is, simply to avoid the charge of "plagiarising" the KJV version. In this way it can be "owned" by the RCC? In the Shema (Deut. 6:5) we are told "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength." Your soul in this passage is Naphshecha (same root nephesh as in Ps. 23). Your strength in the Shema is "meodecha"--a totally different word. The shema, a central affirmation of Judaism, distinguishes soul from strength. In view of this, I simply can't see how NAB would translate Ps. 23 as "he restores my strength."
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 03:37 am |
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If you really want to delve into the meaning of the Bible, and you don't know Hebrew or Greek, you might try the following:
The Interlinear Bible Hebrew-Greek-English, ed. Jay P. Green, Sr., Sovereign Grace Publishers, Lafayette, Indiana, 1986.
This version contains a literal, word-for-word, translation. The Hebrew or Greek word appears in the text of a verse. Underneath is the literal English translation of that word. Above, is the Strong's reference number for that word. Using Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, with its Hebrew and Greek lexicons, you can look up the word by its number and get a basic understanding of the meaning and usage of that word in its various instances throughout the Bible.
The print is small, but it is a great tool for understanding the literal meaning of the orginal languages.
Not for everyone, but very rewarding for those who really want to dig deeply into God's Word!
Blessings!
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 10:23 am |
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I have "The MacArthur Study Bible", NKJ, "The Life Application Study Bible" NLT, a plain ol' NIV, and my mom has an old Catholic Family Bible.
Hey Dave, I'll make you a deal on MacArthur's bible! 
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 07:08 pm |
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 01:23 am |
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| Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition, published by Ignatius Press. Occasionally the NAB will render a verse more felicitously than the RSV, but not often enough for real sustained pleasure in reading.
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| I'm reading a booklet put out by TAN (which I picked up at a charming Catholic bookstore in Front Royal VA today) saying that the Douay Rheims is the best and that the others, including the NAB (which is what I have) are inferior...doesn't look like DR is a popular version here, but TAN is a respected publisher
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Posted: Thu Mar 6th, 2008 11:42 pm |
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JasPax wrote: I like the RSV2-CE. BUT THE PRINT IS TOO SMALL for my old eyes!
I think they have a newer edition of this out that has bigger print. I use the Ignatius RSV-CE and I have stuff written all over it! I call it my second brain!
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MrJiminPA wrote:
I'm reading a booklet put out by TAN (which I picked up at a charming Catholic bookstore in Front Royal VA today) saying that the Douay Rheims is the best and that the others, including the NAB (which is what I have) are inferior...doesn't look like DR is a popular version here, but TAN is a respected publisher
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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 12:55 am |
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MrJiminPA wrote:
MrJiminPA wrote:
I'm reading a booklet put out by TAN (which I picked up at a charming Catholic bookstore in Front Royal VA today) saying that the Douay Rheims is the best and that the others, including the NAB (which is what I have) are inferior...doesn't look like DR is a popular version here, but TAN is a respected publisher
http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2002/0202bt.asp
This link from another thread answered my question...I thought this booklet had a KJV-only sound to it; even so, I think I will snatch up a DRB sometime.
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