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 Posted: Thu Mar 15th, 2007 01:12 pm

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:) If ever there was a crystal clear example of why Catholicism stands head and shoulders above all other Christian denominations, it's the CDF, the office otherwise known incorrectly as the Inquisition. In a grand-slam homerun correction of Fr. Jon Sobrino's bifurcated and bizarre notions about Jesus' divinity, not to mention the Jesuit's overly enthusiatic embrace of "liberation theology," the CDF protects the faithful from egocentric ideas coming from people who should know better.

Sobrino's notions about Jesus' divinity were so far out of the foul lines it wasn't funny. It was hilarious. He's lucky he wasn't dubbed a neo-Arian.

In fact, I daresay that most lay and religious Sunday School, CCD and Parochial School teachers have a better grasp of Jesus' divine nature than Sobrino.

You can "read all about it" in http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=104494.

Even Protestants can be thankful for our Magisterium on this and many more examples where Catholicism preserves and explains the Truth for all faithfull Christians.

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Steven Barrett wrote: :) If ever there was a crystal clear example of why Catholicism stands head and shoulders above all other Christian denominations, it's the CDF, the office otherwise known incorrectly as the Inquisition.
Actually, it was once known as the Inquisition, or officially "Sacra Congregatio Romanae et universalis Inquisitionis seu sancti officii" established in 1542.  New Advent has an article on the various Inquisitions, including the establishment of the office, here.  Look at the third definition, "The Holy Office at Rome."



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:) Cajunrick, you're right. I was trying to convey what the liberals think the office STILL is. The CDF's strongest critics have very fertile imaginations when it comes to the place. I can just imagine all the contemporary heretics worst fears of torture chambers, complete with all the usual toys of torture, and topping it off, auto da fes conducted in some gawdforsaken sulfuric island off the Sicilian coast.

But why waste time, and sweat listening to the shreiks, (and good wood) when the CDF can also call upon the services of converts Tom Howard, Marcus Grodi, Scott Hahn, and columnist Laura Ingraham to straighten out our ever-so-esteemed, not to mention, never to be questioned, pious pioneers and other high priests of the ivory tower.



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Steven Barrett wrote: :) Cajunrick, you're right. I was trying to convey what the liberals think the office STILL is. The CDF's strongest critics have very fertile imaginations when it comes to the place. I can just imagine all the contemporary heretics worst fears of torture chambers, complete with all the usual toys of torture, and topping it off, auto da fes conducted in some gawdforsaken sulfuric island off the Sicilian coast.

But why waste time, and sweat listening to the shreiks, (and good wood) when the CDF can also call upon the services of converts Tom Howard, Marcus Grodi, Scott Hahn, and columnist Laura Ingraham to straighten out our ever-so-esteemed, not to mention, never to be questioned, pious pioneers and other high priests of the ivory tower.

Steve, what does CDF stand for?  Is Laura Ingraham a Catholic?

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Darlene,

The CDF is shorthand for Congregation for the Propagation of Faith.
The D got in there somehow.

Yes, Laura Ingraham has converted, several years ago. Brought in by the same priest (not on tip of typing fingers) who brought in former abortionist Dr. Nathanson, and columnist Robert Novak, among others.

Want to see all the far out libs swarm over to the Episcopalians? Pray for Ann Coulter's conversion. That'll weed 'em out. And save the Episcies from Chapter 11 Bankruptcy for a couple of years.

Gotta go.



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Steven Barrett wrote: The CDF is shorthand for Congregation for the Propagation of Faith.
The D got in there somehow.

Actually, it's the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.  The Society for the Propagation of the Faith is a mission activity of the Church.

You can find a profile of CDF here.  The SPF is organized on a diocesan basis, but you'll find the international web site here.

 



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cajunrick wrote: "Sacra Congregatio Romanae et universalis Inquisitionis seu sancti officii" 
Can you say that title fast 3 times, Rick?

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:) Sorta right the first time. Thanks for bailing me out.



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BodRod wrote: cajunrick wrote: "Sacra Congregatio Romanae et universalis Inquisitionis seu sancti officii" 
Can you say that title fast 3 times, Rick?

I can say something close enough that neither you nor I could be sure it wasn't gibberish!



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OK, you win.



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;) I really liked that word "Inquisitionis". Doesn't it bring back memories of "That Old Time Religion"? Kind of makes me want to wonder how it'd makes Sobrino, Crossan, and Curran think. (Kung's not in the papal dog house anymore.)

Perhaps he's been replaced by the Belgian primate. Of course, the Jesuits are seldom wont for "dissidents" to shelter (with tenure, of course!) in such great bastions of loyalist Catholic teaching: Georgetown and Boston College.

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Steve,

I thought Ann Coulter has professed to be a Christian already.  I saw a "blurb" of her on TBN while I was channel surfing some weeks ago.  If I recall, she said something to the effect that Christ had changed her life.  Of course I realize that TBN is not always the most reliable source, but even Billy Graham has been on that network already.  ;)

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Darlene,

Yeah, I know she had a rebirth of faith lately. I was just in a rather "trouble-making" mood, thinking of whatever I could do to make some "progressive" Catholic's day - or most likely -- NOT.:D:cool::D.

Few things I enjoy more than to afflict the overly serious Pharisees of our times. Perhaps these folks live long lives because God's not even in a hurry to call them home. So, He leaves them down here for us to figure out what to do with them. But he also gives us Ann Coulter to watch as she's driving libs into Ann Coulter Derangement Syndrome spells. From what I understand from my liberal buddies, it's not a pretty picture; certainly not for "progressives" with thin skin, thick skulls, faint hearts and queasy stomachs. Liberals consider it so bad that they won't even allow Saturday Night Live to do a skit on it. My, my. And, just to think it took them so long to get over Reagan, Nixon, William F. Buckley and Joe McCarthy.

So, let's pray for Ann to cross the Tiber. One would think that libs would love to see her "pope" so they can have a twofer to hurl stones at. Not that we'd want to see that, unless it's worth the sight of seeing her harshest detractors get bagged for endangering wildlife.

That'd be a lot of fun to watch, too. It'd be an arresting sight.



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