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 Posted: Tue Oct 31st, 2006 11:23 pm

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In a fully and faithfully Catholic way I did my part for taking back the night of October 31st. Whatever one's opinions regarding the observance of Halloween, this is derived from the term, "All Hallows Eve."  It is the Evening leading into the Holy day that follows. So it is that Christmas Eve has such deep meaning for so many Christians. And those who are the saints, the Holy ones, are honored by the Church at this feast of All Saints, on November 1st.

And what a great time of worship! Praising and thanking God who is glorified in his saints.  And remembering the faithful lives of so many who have fought the good fight of faith.  So we remembered all those who are not named officially as saints, but yet are certainly in the presence of God in heaven. And we heard again the challenge that we all are capable of being saints, -- we should be saints, "be holy, even as your heavenly father is holy."



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 Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 04:45 am

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Greetings,

<"be holy, even as your heavenly father is holy."

That verse has always bothered me. It seems to me that if we could be holy, we would no longer need Jesus.  In other words, that verse is telling us to do the impossible.

How do you see that verse in the terms of reality?





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 Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 08:21 am

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This is my first All Saints Day as a Catholic. It is incredibly special to me for I credit my reading of the early Fathers at the beginning of my journey Home as the spark that grew into this flame that by God's grace now consumes my life. St. Augustine is my patron and his prayer, ""You have created us and directed us towards Yourself, O Lord, and our hearts are restless until they rest in You.", was paramount in my crossing the Tiber. It is a glorious and humbling day, a day for rejoicing and a day for quiet reflection. The thing about every saint that seems to be the central theme of his or her life is the cross. They seemed to have loved their crosses. I pray for this love to grow in me. We are all called to be saints. As St. Josemaria says, "To be holy isn't easy, but it isn't difficult either." Christ have mercy!



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 Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 09:13 am

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BodRod wrote:
It seems to me that if we could be holy, we would no longer need Jesus.  In other words, that verse is telling us to do the impossible.
It is precisely through our incorporation into Christ that we become holy. This is accomplished through the sacraments, especially Baptism (which makes us part of the mystical body of Christ, the Church) and the Eucharist (the actual, physical body of Christ), wherein we effect and accept that bond. Therefore it is Jesus, not we, who through his grace and presence “does the impossible” in us.

This is why Jesus, when asked, “Who then can be saved?” replies, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible” (Matthew 19:25–26). St. Thérèse of Lisieux put it very succinctly: “It’s all grace.”

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 Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 09:56 am

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Amen David! Christ in us is the hope of glory.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 03:41 pm

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David W. Emery wrote: [size=BodRod wrote:
It seems to me that if we could be holy, we would no longer need Jesus.  In other words, that verse is telling us to do the impossible.
...This is why Jesus, when asked, “Who then can be saved?” replies, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible” (Matthew 19:25–26). St.

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David, you read my mind! I was reading down through this thread, and when I read BodRod's post, I thought to answer it with this exact answer, but I thought I'd read down through the rest of the thread before responding... thanks for stealing my thunder! :D ;) Just kidding!!

Anyway, yeah. "With God all things are possible." I would like to add that I think that
"be holy, even as your heavenly father is holy" is really more of a directive to imitate Christ in living a holy life - not that we, as humans, can do it perfectly, but that we must continually strive for that holiness, that perfection. Of course we can't do it on our own, and as David says, that is why we need Jesus.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 05:39 pm

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Amen to the latest messages, It is Christ at work in us, it is never merit of our own, it is grace grace grace! But let us never forget that we are new creations in Christ Jesus, and as Paul also says, we are co-workers with God. James tells us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. It is to God's great glory that He involves us in this journey. Of course we can never be holy on our own. We rely on Jesus for our goodness, He is our righteousness, and by His GRACE, we hopefully learn to say Fiat as Blessed Mary did. We work with Him and by grace learn to say Thy will be done. How beautiful and how high a calling! How awesome His love! The Blessed Sacraments strengthen us in this journey. Without them, we can't abide. Jesus said, "He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me and I in him." John 6. Real food and real drink for the work ahead. Glory to His name!



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 Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 06:59 pm

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That makes a lot of sense. I'll think on that for awhile. Thanks.



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