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rbo4u2
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 03:38 pm |
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I have another minor question. I've found a website that offers live online adoration of the blessed Sacrament. Is this an acceptable substitute when you can't make it to a parish that may have adoration?
I know you aren't literally in the presence of the sacrament, but in a sense you are when you worship spiritually. And I realize it's best to go to a parish when you can to adore.
There are so many rules in the Catholic church that make it so hard to know if you are doing right from wrong.
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Rich
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rbo4u2
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 03:39 pm |
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rbo4u2 wrote:
I have another minor question. I've found a website that offers live online adoration of the blessed Sacrament. Is this an acceptable substitute when you can't make it to a parish that may have adoration?
I know you aren't literally in the presence of the sacrament, but in a sense you are when you worship spiritually. And I realize it's best to go to a parish when you can to adore.
There are so many rules in the Catholic church that make it so hard to know if you are doing right from wrong.
Thanks
Rich
I forgot...the website is http://www.savior.orgLast edited on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 03:41 pm by rbo4u2
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Pani Rose
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 06:09 pm |
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The Monks of Adoration usually have a really good site up, you could adore with them, as you were able to see them in meditation and moving about.
When I was sooo very homebound it was such a blessing to be able just to sit and see.
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David W. Emery
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 08:39 pm |
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Hello again, Rich. I just came from another thread where you were trying to work through a virtual-reality sort of thing, and here you are again, thinking of similar stuff.
I would consider seeing the Blessed Sacrament on video through the internet or television much like a televised Mass: It isn’t the real thing, but it does have some meaning, some “pull.” We could perhaps consider it kind of like a sacramental — a blessed object. Yes, the real thing, in person and actually communicating, is infinitely better, but that doesn’t mean there is no value in images and prayers. As scripture says, “God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good” (Genesis 1:31).
I don’t consider that such reasoning is “so many rules… that make it hard to know if you are doing right from wrong.” It’s just a matter of accepting reality and learning from it. What would you do in the presence of God, if he were to reveal to you all his meaning and significance? How would you handle it? “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God” (Matthew 5:8). Isn’t that what heaven is all about?
David
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rbo4u2
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Posted: Sun Aug 10th, 2008 12:49 am |
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David W. Emery wrote:
Hello again, Rich. I just came from another thread where you were trying to work through a virtual-reality sort of thing, and here you are again, thinking of similar stuff.
David
Ya think so huh? Well, virtual reality or real, I'd choose the real presence too. Hmmmm, I wonder what it would be like to put on one of those virtual reality glasses and watch adoration in 3-D?
Anyway, just for giggles...I'm "working my way" through Fr. Groeschel's marvelous book, In the Presence of Our Lord. I think I had one of those rare "ah ha" moments. He explains in one chapter that I read yesterday that when we pray, we are always in God's presence. But in that sense, we are presenting ourselves to Him for whatever he wants. We are sacrificing our lives to worship him. We "come" to Him. But when we are in Adoration before the Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, He comes to us and presents Himself and His sacrifice for us in our present moment. Whatever our need is, he supplies. That's a big difference.
When I read that I was blown away. Adoration is placing ourselves in his presence so that he can reveal his presence to us. I know this may be old hat to you, but when you really contemplate that thought it becomes very profound.
I think one more chink in my armor has been chipped away. No virtual reality this time. This is real stuff.
Rich
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Posted: Sun Aug 10th, 2008 01:39 am |
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I'm "working my way" through Fr. Groeschel's marvelous book, In the Presence of Our Lord.
A really good book. I read it a few years ago, shortly after it was published.
I think I had one of those rare "ah ha" moments.
You “think” you had one?! Is that “virtual reality” striking three times in one day? Then too, I’m wondering just how rare those “ah ha” moments really are for you, because I see you with one quite regularly.
He explains in one chapter that I read yesterday that when we pray, we are always in God's presence. But in that sense, we are presenting ourselves to Him for whatever he wants. We are sacrificing our lives to worship him. We "come" to Him.
Yes. As the classic books on prayer put it, “Begin by placing yourself in God’s presence.”
But when we are in Adoration before the Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, He comes to us and presents Himself and His sacrifice for us in our present moment. Whatever our need is, he supplies.
Right. The roles are reversed, as it were, because he is not only spiritually present (where we have to imagine that presence to make it “real” to us — and we do this by “placing ourselves in his presence,” don’t we?) but also physically present. He’s not only “in” that wafer, he is that wafer, as I just said to someone else in another thread here. This is what boggles the mind. And fills the heart. And chips away at the armor of disbelief. Yes, “the real stuff” indeed.
David
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