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Posted: Tue Dec 26th, 2006 01:52 pm |
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Who do priests confess their sins to? And bishops? Cardinals? All the way up to the Pope? Is there a chain of command, so to speak? I think this question might have a length answer. (lol)
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Posted: Tue Dec 26th, 2006 02:55 pm |
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Each confesses to another priest or bishop. Every priest or bishop has the power to absolve sins by virtue of his ordination. There is no “chain of command.” The ability to discern and counsel wisely may vary widely, however, since this is not something that comes from the sacrament of orders. Therefore, one should choose his confessor carefully.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26th, 2006 05:18 pm |
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Darlene wrote: Who do priests confess their sins to? And bishops? Cardinals? All the way up to the Pope? Is there a chain of command, so to speak? I think this question might have a length answer. (lol)
No heirarchy at all. All priests select another priest as their confessor, just as the rest of us do. I've seen priests at penance services confess to one another. Bishops, cardinals, and even the pope are priests first, and the same applies to them.
As David said, all priests have the power to forgive sins, but some may not have permission to do so. The grant of permission is called "faculties" and sometimes priests may not be granted faculties for medical or other reasons. For example, a priest who is hard of hearing may not be able to hear a private confession. An interpretor may be required in certain circumstances, and the interpretor is bound by the seal of the confessional just as the priest is.
Any priest, including those who have been laicized and those without faculties, may absolve sins if a person is in danger of death. It is highly unusual for a priest without faculties to absolve sins to be assigned to a parish, so it is safe to assume that any priest in a parish has both the power and the authority to forgive sins.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26th, 2006 06:45 pm |
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cajunrick wrote: Any priest, including those who have been laicized and those without faculties, may absolve sins if a person is in danger of death. It is highly unusual for a priest without faculties to absolve sins to be assigned to a parish, so it is safe to assume that any priest in a parish has both the power and the authority to forgive sins.
I didn't know that. What kind of placements do priest without faculties normally have?
Just curious,
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Posted: Tue Dec 26th, 2006 08:00 pm |
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<<<...all priests have the power to forgive sins...>>>
I'm confused. We were taught in RCIA that only God can forgive sin. The priest only gives absolution. The priest still has an important role but it is not the forgivness part. Straighten my thinking out, Rick.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26th, 2006 08:25 pm |
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BodRod wrote: <<<...all priests have the power to forgive sins...>>>
I'm confused. We were taught in RCIA that only God can forgive sin. The priest only gives absolution. The priest still has an important role but it is not the forgivness part. Straighten my thinking out, Rick.
"Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven." Of course, the priest does not actually forgive the sins, but acts in the person of Christ. Just as it is Christ who transforms the bread and wine into his Body and Blood at mass, it is Christ who forgives our sins when the priest speaks the words of absolution.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26th, 2006 08:37 pm |
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Esther wrote: cajunrick wrote: Any priest, including those who have been laicized and those without faculties, may absolve sins if a person is in danger of death. It is highly unusual for a priest without faculties to absolve sins to be assigned to a parish, so it is safe to assume that any priest in a parish has both the power and the authority to forgive sins.
I didn't know that. What kind of placements do priest without faculties normally have?
He may be in a monastery, or working at the Vatican, etc. Also, a visiting priest from another diocese does not have faculties unless specifically granted. Not just anyone can put on a Roman collar and celebrate mass or hear confession; he has to have a letter granting him permission from the bishop of the diocese.
Most commonly in the Roman Catholic Church, diocesan priests have faculties within their own diocese to administer all sacraments except Holy Orders and Confirmation. Only a bishop may ordain deacons, priests, and other bishops. While all priests have the power to confirm, it is normally reserved to the bishop, so priests do not have the faculties except at the Easter Vigil and in special circumstances.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26th, 2006 10:59 pm |
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Rick or David,
So when someone is confirmed in the Catholic Church at Easter, who presides over that ceremony? (is that what it is called?) I thought from all that I have read, that it is the Bishops who preside over all Confirmations and those entering the Catholic Church.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26th, 2006 11:10 pm |
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So when someone is confirmed in the Catholic Church at Easter, who presides over that ceremony? (is that what it is called?) I thought from all that I have read, that it is the Bishops who preside over all Confirmations and those entering the Catholic Church.
It used to be that the bishop celebrated all the confirmations. That’s the way I was confirmed. Now, it seems, this seldom happens. In the past 30 years, I don’t think I’ve seen even one confirmation actually celebrated by the bishop. It’s always been the parish pastor, delegated by the bishop for the task.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26th, 2006 11:51 pm |
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David W. Emery wrote: [size=So when someone is confirmed in the Catholic Church at Easter, who presides over that ceremony? (is that what it is called?) I thought from all that I have read, that it is the Bishops who preside over all Confirmations and those entering the Catholic Church.
It used to be that the bishop celebrated all the confirmations. That’s the way I was confirmed. Now, it seems, this seldom happens. In the past 30 years, I don’t think I’ve seen even one confirmation actually celebrated by the bishop. It’s always been the parish pastor, delegated by the bishop for the task.
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I have a different experience. In my diocese the bishop administers all confirmations except on Holy Saturday. I know that is also the case in the other dioceses in Louisiana. Confirmation usually takes place on a weeknight at a special liturgy celebrated for that purpose between Easter and Pentecost. The only times we have ever had confirmaton administered by a priest who was not the bishop was during the period when we were without a bishop and the dean handled it one year, and the apostolic administrator of the diocese the next.
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Posted: Wed Dec 27th, 2006 04:55 pm |
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Is an apostolic minister a member of the clergy or laity?
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Posted: Wed Dec 27th, 2006 05:17 pm |
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Darlene wrote: Is an apostolic minister a member of the clergy or laity?
The Apostolic Administrator is appointed by the pope to be in charge of a diocese while it is without a bishop. He may be an assistant bishop, a bishop of an adjacent diocese, or a retired bishop. He must be at least a priest to fulfill the sacramental requirements of the office.
If no apostolic administrator is appointed, the priest's council elects a priest from the diocese to serve as administrator.
Apostolic administrators are typically appointed if a new bishop is not expected to be named quickly. In our case, our priests elected Msgr. Joseph Latino to be our administrator, but he was named bishop of Jackson, MS, so the retired chancellor of our diocese was named apostolic administrator. By canon law, the elected administrator is only a caretaker; he cannot order the transfer of priests or take other non-emergency action. An apostolic administrator, on the other hand, has more authority, but unless he is a bishop, he can't preside over the chrism mass during Holy Week or ordain new deacons and priests for the diocese, and he can't make changes in diocesan policy.
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Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2007 12:15 am |
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In my diocese The Bishop comes to do the confermations except when, In my situation Father Baptised me & confirmed me. But for those who were Baptised by another priest or in another church, Theyhad to be confirmed by the Bishop.
I read somewhere that Pope JPII went to confession once a week, I was a new Catholic at the time and I remember feeling some anxiety inside thinking that if the Holy Father goes once a week, Then I didn't know how I was going to make it.
I've learned a great deal since then and father will scold me if he thinks I'm going overboard. I'm grateful he knows a great deal about me, My conversion, etc. I feel he can better counsil me too. So I try to go to father for most every confession, instead of going to other priests.
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