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kimdyuma
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| Joined: | Mon Oct 9th, 2006 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
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| First Name: | Kim | | Gender: | Female | | Faith History: | cradle Anglican, Episcopal /Catholic-04/07/07 |
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Posted: Wed Feb 7th, 2007 11:39 am |
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| People, including catholics seem to take it for granted that an annulment will be granted if you just jump through enough hoops. I have a friend whose daughter was married in the catholic church to non catholic- they were together for about 10 years. They then got a divorce ( instigated by the girl, who moved in with someone else) They have since been married in a civil service. My friend thinks that they can just get an annulment and because the second husband's first marriage was only a civil marriage that it doesn't count at all.
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CajunRick
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| Joined: | Fri Sep 29th, 2006 |
| Location: | Houma, Louisiana USA |
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| First Name: | Rick (& Kermie) | | Gender: | Male | | Faith History: | Lifetime Catholic, Latin Rite |
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Posted: Wed Feb 7th, 2007 02:16 pm |
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kimdyuma wrote: People, including catholics seem to take it for granted that an annulment will be granted if you just jump through enough hoops. I have a friend whose daughter was married in the catholic church to non catholic- they were together for about 10 years. They then got a divorce ( instigated by the girl, who moved in with someone else) They have since been married in a civil service. My friend thinks that they can just get an annulment and because the second husband's first marriage was only a civil marriage that it doesn't count at all.
Obviously, your friend is wrong. The percentage of tribunal cases that are granted in the United States is about 75% and is the highest in the world, but 25% are still denied. I think the reasons the percentages are so high is that (a) American cases are generally better prepared than elsewhere, so many cases never make it to the Tribunal, and (b) Americans tend to be very immature and to have improper expectations of marriage. That's just my personal opinion; your mileage may vary.
If her second husband is Catholic and was married in a civil ceremony, his Declaration of Nullity will be simple. Hers will not.
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mrsbmoo
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| Joined: | Fri Sep 29th, 2006 |
| Location: | Virginia USA |
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| First Name: | Becky | | Gender: | Female | | Faith History: | former Methodist. RCA, Presbyterian, Holiness, Wesleyan... Catholic as of June ... |
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Posted: Wed Feb 7th, 2007 10:06 pm |
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| I agree that Americans in general are ill-prepared for marriage. We see everything in the media about marriage being about making you happy and fulfilling social expectations, not about responsibility and sacrifice and commitment(Not that marriage is a misery). I certainly felt that way when I married the first time and I was nearly 24. I wanted someone to love me and give me the social status of a wife and mother and the lifestyle I had grown up with. I was never satisfied with what he gave me. Not that he was totally without blame. He didn't want to give up his free spending and out on the town lifestyle, even though he made little over minimum wage. So a marriage based on materialism, self-gratification is no sacremental marriage. I had one 30 minute meeting with a pastor for marriage preparation and years of TV. All the pastor asked us was how many kids we planned to have and whose job was more important. That is my personal theory on why americans have so many sucessful annulments. I know my local parish has much more extensive preparation and I think it is a great idea.
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Angie_Rivas1
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| Location: | Downey, USA |
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Posted: Fri Feb 9th, 2007 03:45 pm |
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Becky,
You made a very good point! This is exactly what happened on my marriage. For very selfish reasons, my former spouse felt that I was not making him happy anymore and he was entitled to happiness so he divorced me. I firmly believe that couples who are dating seriously and whose goal is marriage should prepare themselves mentally, emotially, physically and definitely spiritually. I also believe that today's marriages go through many more struggles than in the past due to different reasons (more egocentric people in today's generation) and as God's children we are called to pray for healthy and happy marriages.
Angie
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