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brian
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 12:22 pm |
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I think I have exhausitvely asked this for myself, but I have a slightly different concern this time. I still feel a little weird about it for myself though. For instance if I get invited to specific events or trips and I do not know if there will be opportunity to go to mass, I often shy away. I think this is weird because I personally believe that as important as the obligation is on Sunday that occasionally if one found oneself on a unique experience or trip that it would be understandable as to why you did not go to church.
Anyway, this time my concern is for my father who is a new catholic and gets much of his instruction from me. He is going on a cruise or something like that around alaska to site see and play some cards or something. Now I was thinknig about telling him to ask a priest for dispensation, or to confess that he missed mass before going to one next week. However, I think tht since he is away on a cruise and has other issues coming up with health that might make him be gone for a few weeks, well, I think maybe he really is not choosing to miss mass so much as getting away from life for a bit. So is this a concenr? Am I not doing all i can by telling him about the obligation in this circumstance? I kind of figured that to him it is not sin at all, and I am not sure it is either, so I figure why tell him since that may only make him less able to enjoy the trip? And if he does not know it is sin than it could not be a mortal sin becasue he does not have full knowledge of it or undertanding. So I almost do not want to tell him so he can simply enjoy himself and not worry about it or be as guilty. Does this make me guilty? Fact is, I simply do not know what to do, so how guilty can I be?
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Annie
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 01:24 pm |
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I am in a similar circumstance. I have a vacation coming up, my first in 6 years, my health is poor and I am driving two days alone. I may be in no shape to go to church my first day at my destination. I intend to tell Father at my home church about it and ask for a dispensation. He knows I have problems. I don't see why a dispensation won't be given in your case as well. Health issues always raise a red flag whether there is a vacation involved or not.
I will doubtless be recovered enough to attend weekday Mass the week I get to my destination. Once I missed Mass and Father gave me the penance of attending two weekday Masses.
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Annie
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 01:25 pm |
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PS- Stop feeling guilty.
The Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath.
Last edited on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 01:26 pm by Annie
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brian
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 01:28 pm |
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well, the first week is not because of helath reasons, so much as that he is on vacation on a ship or traveling in a plane or something or just will not know where a church is. Then he gets back into town and may have to drive to an important dental appointment.
The thing is, he probably does not even know what receiving a dispensation to miss mass is, and neither do I really because I have never goten one. Plus since it is not for me how much should I be worried about it I wonder. maybe I should just tell him to go to confession when he gets back and discuss it with the priest just in case it was a problem.
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BodRod
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 02:59 pm |
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| What about watching Mass on TV? Would that make you feel less guilty?
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mg57
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 03:13 pm |
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If one is on a ship, there's no physical way you can get to Mass unless there's one on board. One can easily mention that in reconciliation when you know there's a trip scheduled in the near future. For newbies, doing it like that will build a body of good thinking and practice within you for the future as well as you have the opportunity to discuss things like this with your local priest / deacon.
Mass is the center of the wheel that my scheduled life spins on, - unless of course there's an emergency. When I'm out of town anywhere, I've used -
http://www.masstimes.org/dotnet/Default.aspx in order to plan ahead.
God bless.
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BodRod
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 03:20 pm |
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That is the web site I use to find Mass when I am off wandering around.
I know of only one ship/cruise that has Mass on board and that is the one from LA to Mexico and back. (No Rick, that is in California, not where you live,) I am told that that vessel has Mass every morning before breakfast.
So, there is a good question:
Does anyone else know of cruises that have Mass on board?
Last edited on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 03:22 pm by BodRod
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