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Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 11:11 am |
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I hope this is in the right place. Sorry if it's not. I've been hearing rumors that Pope Benedict might reinstate the requirement of the mantilla or some form of head covering for women during Mass. Anyone know anything? Thanks.
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Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 11:29 am |
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sweetyface17 wrote: I hope this is in the right place. Sorry if it's not. I've been hearing rumors that Pope Benedict might reinstate the requirement of the mantilla or some form of head covering for women during Mass. Anyone know anything? Thanks.
I am not aware of it. Certainly there has been nothing from the Vatican indicating that he is considering it.
Frankly I'd rather he take on more serious subjects like extremely short skirts, low-cut blouses, visible (or lack of) underwear, torn blue jeans, and chewing gum. Of course, those rules are already in place, they're just rarely enforced.
I would rather a woman have her breasts and her rear end covered than her head. And if he calls and asks my opinion, I'll tell him.
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Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 11:37 am |
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| not to mention faded ripped out of shape Tshirts, torn and ripped jeans etc..
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Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 11:42 am |
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Hehe... I suppose you're right. I think people who show up like that (torn t-shirts, short skirts) should have to wear novices' robes to mass for a month. It would be quite funny to see the change in modesty if that were instated. Just kidding, of course. 
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Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 11:54 am |
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cajunrick wrote: And if he calls and asks my opinion, I'll tell him.
That list is getting pretty long by now, isn't it?
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Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 12:17 pm |
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Ali wrote: cajunrick wrote: And if he calls and asks my opinion, I'll tell him.
That list is getting pretty long by now, isn't it?
You don't know the half of it!  It's just my way of saying that my opinions will only matter when the Church asks for them, and I am not holding my breath waiting for the phone to ring.
I suspect if he ever did actually call, I would be so awestruck I couldn't say a thing. But then I'd spend the next ten years wishing I had told him things!
Or else I would think it was a crank call and hang up!
I have a friend who says on the day she dies, no one else will be able to die, because she has so many questions for God he won't have time for anyone else!
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Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 11:21 pm |
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I sure wish it would come back!
I agree that there are other more pressing needs of maintaining modesty, yet I believe that the requirement of a head covering would make everything else fall into place.
Personally, I was never one to wear very immodest clothing at mass; however, on occasion I would wear nice shorts or a sundress if I were going out to the park or somewhere immediately after. Yet after I began wearing a mantilla I wouldn't be caught dead wearing anything but a below the knee dress or skirt (except when I lived in Maine--I often wore nice long pants on the very cold days).
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Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 11:52 pm |
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Our priest keeps the building very chilly because he stays hot and I almost always need to wear long pants to keep my legs from freezing.
I love the way the mantillas look on TV but can't imagine trying to keep one on while managing a wiggly baby or toddler. They would be too tempting for the child to pull on.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2007 12:03 am |
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mrsbmoo wrote: I love the way the mantillas look on TV but can't imagine trying to keep one on while managing a wiggly baby or toddler. They would be too tempting for the child to pull on.
Actually, Becky, that kept me from wearing one for a long time. So while my youngest was in her baby/toddler stage I began with wearing the small round "doily." When she was around two I began wearing the larger triangular one. I've never had a problem with any of them pulling at it. I've seen some ladies anchor theirs on with hair combs or bobby pins. I never have, but I should with my black one, it always has a tendency to slip off.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2007 12:02 pm |
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You can always pull it back and tie it like a bandanna which I have seen done. You have to have the front adjusted for it to look right though.
I wear dark blue jeans and a nice t-shirt or work shirt. I too wish "full coverage" would come back. But then I wish for a lot of things, like Palestrina and chant. If wishes were bicycles I would ride...
Actually I have read elsewhere that the requirement to cover the head was never rescinded and still stands, it just went out along with a lot of other things in the great sweeping tide.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2007 12:14 pm |
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Annie wrote:
Actually I have read elsewhere that the requirement to cover the head was never rescinded and still stands, it just went out along with a lot of other things in the great sweeping tide.
I've read that too! I did a google search and came across a q&a site that featured a nun who answered a question with this information. So, should we all break out the mantillas and full coverage and start our own little modesty revolution?
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Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2007 01:14 pm |
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sweetyface17 wrote:
Annie wrote:
Actually I have read elsewhere that the requirement to cover the head was never rescinded and still stands, it just went out along with a lot of other things in the great sweeping tide.
I've read that too! I did a google search and came across a q&a site that featured a nun who answered a question with this information. So, should we all break out the mantillas and full coverage and start our own little modesty revolution?
EWTN has a good explanation of the laws regarding head coverings, which you'll find here.
In a nutshell, it was included in the 1917 Code of Canon Law; it was not included, and therefore abrogated, in the 1983 Code of Canon Law.
It is interesting to note that the same 1917 Canon recommended that men and women be separated in the Church. I do not ever remember that being a common practice.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2007 10:32 pm |
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cajunrick wrote:It is interesting to note that the same 1917 Canon recommended that men and women be separated in the Church. I do not ever remember that being a common practice.
It was customary in Europe for centuries. Immigrant parishes in the US also practiced it for a time, but it fell out of use nearly a century ago. This is why you never saw it.
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Posted: Sat Apr 14th, 2007 08:38 pm |
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I would rather a woman have her breasts and her rear end covered than her head.
Where do you go to Church? Not that I want to visit or anything. 
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Posted: Sat Apr 14th, 2007 09:05 pm |
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Juan wrote: I would rather a woman have her breasts and her rear end covered than her head.
Where do you go to Church? Not that I want to visit or anything.
I don't think I've ever been to a church where I didn't see people inappropriately dressed. Between low-cut blouses, micro-mini skirts, visible panties, and too-tight everything, I've seen an awful lot more of some women than I ever wanted to see in church. To reestablish a requirement for head covering for women, in my opinion, would miss the real problem, and that is a lack of modest dress in church.
Men are equally guilty of dressing inappropriately, but normally not immodestly. Muscle shirts still don't belong in church, and neither do super baggy pants worn below the hips, and visible underwear. But at least modesty is not an issue there.
I live in a hot, sub-tropical climate, so maybe the problem is worse here than elsewhere. Somehow, I don't think so.
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Posted: Sat Apr 14th, 2007 09:32 pm |
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