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brian Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 02:13 am |
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| an announcement was made for those who want to sign up to perform liturgical dance at the Christmas mass. I thought i heard that in the west all dance or liturgical dance was not allowed. is this true?
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David W. Emery Network Helper
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Posted: Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 08:34 am |
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True. In our culture, dance has a secular significance, not a religious one. Only in a few areas of the world, such as certain places in Africa, Asia and Oceania, where dance — or more properly, rhythmical procession — have religious significance, would such practices be allowable as part of the liturgy. In the USA, its value is merely as entertainment; therefore, it is unacceptable as a part of worship.
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brian Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 03:08 pm |
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I struggle to agree with this because it is the church making a judgment not based on the truth of how God created us as humans, but based on what a culture has ruined. i would think the church should be seeking to redeem all areas of life created by God for our good, and biblically i think dancing is definitely recommended in scripture as a means of praising God, I think the jewish people had many worship activities that were good and pleasing to God that we may be neglecting.
people misuse alcohol a lot in the world too, yet we still must use communion for wine. i know this is very different, but my point is that why decide what is good or bad by what people who came before us did. Why not look for ways which dancing could be restred and taught to us as humans as part of celebrating our redemption?
anyway, would this action be acceptable if it were not part of the liturgy, or if it were done afterwards? still, it is troublesome to go to a church that is a pretty good church where God is doing a lot and know certain things that are going on against the rules. i dont feel like i am supposed to know these things. even if i disagree with them i do think the church should completely obey them.
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David W. Emery Network Helper
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Posted: Thu Nov 23rd, 2006 01:30 am |
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Dance in itself is not evil; it is simply considered by the Church as inappropriate for certain times, places and activities. One of these, in our culture, is divine worship. Outside of the liturgical setting, there is no obstacle to the use of dance other than its appropriateness in context.
Liturgy is a discipline, not a doctrine, and can therefore be changed. What you are doing by obeying the Church’s rules regarding the liturgy is obeying God in his signified will. If the Church’s rules should change, then those rules would be the will of God at that time.
Jesus tells us that we will be judged on our charity (Matthew 25:31–46) and our obedience (Matthew 7:21). What good comes, then, of wilful disobedience?
David
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