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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 11:01 am |
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I've been reading some of Joseph Pearce's essays on Catholic literary giants JRR Tolkien, CS Lewis and Hilaire Belloc, and I've gotten interested in the political concept of "subsidiarity" that those men both talked about and wrote about, and which the Catholic Church subscribes to. I've read what the Catechism has to say about it -- how the smallest unit of society is the family, and that all other larger units are there to serve the smaller units. I'm hoping there is a "subsidiary expert" in our midst who can expand upon what the Catechism has described. Thanks!
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 03:07 pm |
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Good luck! There isn't much in the way of resources or critical analysis on how to politically apply subsidiarity from a Catholic point of view. It is a subject I am interested in as well and haven't been able to find much on it. You'll definitely want to read Pope Leo XIII's encyclical Rerum Novarum, which can be found at:
Click Here for Rerum Novarum
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 07:02 pm |
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Hilaire Belloc (1870-1953)
Here's some stuff:
The Principle of Subsidiarity, David A. Bosnich
Catholic Social Doctrine Begins With Subsidiarity, Frank Morriss
Catholic Social Thought and Civil Society, John A. Coleman
The Relevance of Solidarity and Subsidiarity to Reformed Social and Political Thought, Stephen V. Monsma
What Is Catholic Social Teaching?, Mark Brumley
Subsidiarity (Wikipedia)
Catholic Rural Ethic
Major Catholic Social Teaching Documents
Social Teaching in the Catechism
Catholic Social Teaching (Wikipedia)
Distributism (Wikipedia)
Distributism (collection of essay links by Mary De Marco)
Distributist essays by G.K. Chesterton
What's Wrong With the World, book by G.K. Chesterton
The Outline of Sanity, book by G.K. Chesterton
The ChesterBelloc Mandate (Distributist blog)
The New Distributist League (blog)
Distributism (links page)
Fr. Vincent McNabb, O.P. and the Economic Theory of Distributism (links)
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 07:12 pm |
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You forgot one, Dave.
The Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church and in particular Chapter 4 Part IV, The Principle of Subsidiarity.
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 07:19 pm |
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Indeed, I did. Thanks! 
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 08:45 pm |
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Wow. I 'm whelmed, if not overwhelmed. I guess you won't be hearing from me for awhile as I read all the links provided. THANKS !
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 08:53 pm |
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Dave Armstrong wrote:

Hilaire Belloc (1870-1953)
Here's some stuff:
The Principle of Subsidiarity, David A. Bosnich
Catholic Social Doctrine Begins With Subsidiarity, Frank Morriss
Catholic Social Thought and Civil Society, John A. Coleman
The Relevance of Solidarity and Subsidiarity to Reformed Social and Political Thought, Stephen V. Monsma
What Is Catholic Social Teaching?, Mark Brumley
Subsidiarity (Wikipedia)
Catholic Rural Ethic
Major Catholic Social Teaching Documents
Social Teaching in the Catechism
Catholic Social Teaching (Wikipedia)
Distributism (Wikipedia)
Distributism (collection of essay links by Mary De Marco)
Distributist essays by G.K. Chesterton
What's Wrong With the World, book by G.K. Chesterton
The Outline of Sanity, book by G.K. Chesterton
The ChesterBelloc Mandate (Distributist blog)
The New Distributist League (blog)
Distributism (links page)
Fr. Vincent McNabb, O.P. and the Economic Theory of Distributism (links)
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 11:52 pm |
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rbo4u2 wrote: Holy Smoke you guys...I can't even spell the name let alone pronounce it. And I was just getting used to Eucharist.
And you'd be astounded by how many terms we've avoided! 
Two thousand years of brilliance by people like Paul, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, and Karol Woytila and Joseph Ratzinger makes for a lot of terminology. Imagine a couple of millennia of Albert Einstein or Stephen Hawking redefining physics and you'll see what I mean.
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Free wrote: Wow. I 'm whelmed, if not overwhelmed. I guess you won't be hearing from me for awhile as I read all the links provided. THANKS !
If I were you, I would start with Rerum Novarum and the links to the Catechism (which Dave posted) and the Compendium (which I posted) as these represent official Church publications. That's not to denigrate the other resources by any means, but it's always best to start with Church documents when confronted by such an exhaustive list, as other publications' validity must always be judged against the Church's Magisterium.
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Posted: Tue Apr 1st, 2008 01:18 am |
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Yes, after glancing through most of the links, I can see that I need to read several church documents: Rerum Novarum, Mater et Magistra, Centessimus Annus, and Quadragesimo Anno. Also, I see Amazon Books carries the Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church in book form, and I've ordered that from them.
Again, thanks for the links and the suggestions!
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Posted: Tue Apr 1st, 2008 09:41 pm |
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The moderators can put this somewhere else if they want, but if you want definitions of terms, Catholic Culture has just sent out a notice that the New Catholic Dictionary of 1910 has been put on line. I guess it is unfinished but can be used. You can find it at http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/indexncd.htm.
Or get the link from Catholic Culture http://www.catholicculture.org/reviews/view.cfm?recnum=2563
Any help is good, even if the terms are a bit archaic.
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Posted: Tue Apr 1st, 2008 09:46 pm |
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rbo4u2 wrote: The moderators can put this somewhere else if they want,
Actually, they can't. Only an entire thread can be moved, not individual posts. That's why it's so important to start a new topic when we post off-topic. If you post it in a new thread by pressing the "New Topic" button, then the moderators can move it to a more appropriate area if necessary.
"Recommended Resources" would be a good spot for an online reference source like the Catholic Dictionary you mentioned.
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