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Dr. Charles Kimball "When Religion Becomes Evil"
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NanaR
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 Posted: Tue Apr 8th, 2008 05:47 pm

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Do any of you know anything about the views of Dr. Charles Kimball with regard to Roman Catholicism?  Our college has been sponsoring reading/talk sessions with regard to his book listed above (which I have managed to avoid).  But today he gave a one hour talk and I had to attend.

His focus is largely Islam, but of course he talked about Christianity also.  He talked for one full hour about world religion and only said "Roman Catholic" one time (in passing).  He listed Christian religions and did not list Catholicism at all (while mentioning Greek Orthodoxy several times).  He claimed that Chaldean Christianity is neither Catholic nor Orthodox (?).  And in listing the evils done in the name of religion, he of course listed the Inquisition and the Crusades.

I'm trying to figure out if the man simply does not consider Roman Catholicism to be Christian, or if he considers Roman Catholicism evil.  However, after enduring an hour talk by him, I'm not going to pay money for his book to find out the answer.

I know he is Southern Baptist and is a big wig in Religious Studies at Wake Forest University.

Anybody able to enlighten me on this?

Pax,

Ruth



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 Posted: Tue Apr 8th, 2008 06:05 pm

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NanaR wrote: His focus is largely Islam, but of course he talked about Christianity also.  He talked for one full hour about world religion and only said "Roman Catholic" one time (in passing).  He listed Christian religions and did not list Catholicism at all (while mentioning Greek Orthodoxy several times).
Obviously showing his bias.  He would no doubt find Orthodoxy unacceptable too, but "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

He claimed that Chaldean Christianity is neither Catholic nor Orthodox (?).
The Syraic Churches, as I understand them, separated from the Catholic Church in 451, half a millennium prior to the Great Schism.  They are not among the Orthodox Churches.  Of course, those Chaldean Christians who have reunited with Rome are Catholic, but those who haven't are not Orthodox.  We call them the Oriental Churches.

And in listing the evils done in the name of religion, he of course listed the Inquisition and the Crusades.
Those are valid and deserve to be listed, but so do the Salem witch trials, and the Anglican persecution of Catholics under Henry VIII and his successors.  Did he happen to mention them?



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 Posted: Tue Apr 8th, 2008 06:19 pm

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CajunRick wrote: NanaR wrote: His focus is largely Islam, but of course he talked about Christianity also.  He talked for one full hour about world religion and only said "Roman Catholic" one time (in passing).  He listed Christian religions and did not list Catholicism at all (while mentioning Greek Orthodoxy several times).
Obviously showing his bias.  He would no doubt find Orthodoxy unacceptable too, but "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

He claimed that Chaldean Christianity is neither Catholic nor Orthodox (?).
The Syraic Churches, as I understand them, separated from the Catholic Church in 451, half a millennium prior to the Great Schism.  They are not among the Orthodox Churches.  Of course, those Chaldean Christians who have reunited with Rome are Catholic, but those who haven't are not Orthodox.  We call them the Oriental Churches.

I just looked on Wikipedia, and it said that the Chaldean Churches reunited with Rome in 1553. Possibly some have not yet entered full communion, but Dr. Kimball was misleading his audience by asserting the entire Chaldean Church to be "not Catholic".


And in listing the evils done in the name of religion, he of course listed the Inquisition and the Crusades.
Those are valid and deserve to be listed, but so do the Salem witch trials, and the Anglican persecution of Catholics under Henry VIII and his successors.  Did he happen to mention them?


He did not mention the Salem witch trials or the Anglican persecution of Catholics. 

I wanted to ask a question at the end, but he went over and there wasn't time for one.  I wanted to ask him what he thought of Pope Benedict XVI's initiative to dialogue with the Islamic community, or of Muslim persecution of Muslims who convert to Christianity (since he went to great pains to point out how, as a whole, the Muslim religion is very peaceful...).

I was just steaming when I left.  I went and blew it off in my boss's office (Cradle Catholic and member of parish council, so he understood ;-).

Now I have to calm down again.  I'm experiencing a serious lack of charity toward this guy.

Pax,

Ruth

Last edited on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 11:46 pm by NanaR



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