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Laughing Elf
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 04:38 am |
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Just curious .... is it true that it is a sin to miss mass on Sunday?
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 05:25 am |
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Yes, Rod. It is not only a sin; it is a mortal sin to miss Sunday Mass intentionally unless one is too ill to attend, the roads are too dangerous to travel, or one has other serious reasons for missing (that the Church would accept). You can always check with a priest in advance, if in doubt.
Click here for past thread on subject.Last edited on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 05:37 am by Intercessor
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 11:09 am |
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From the Catechism:
The Sunday obligation
2180 The precept of the Church specifies the law of the Lord more precisely: "On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound to participate in the Mass." "The precept of participating in the Mass is satisfied by assistance at a Mass which is celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the holy day or on the evening of the preceding day."
2181 The Sunday Eucharist is the foundation and confirmation of all Christian practice. For this reason the faithful are obliged to participate in the Eucharist on days of obligation, unless excused for a serious reason (for example, illness, the care of infants) or dispensed by their own pastor. Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit a grave sin.
2182 Participation in the communal celebration of the Sunday Eucharist is a testimony of belonging and of being faithful to Christ and to his Church. The faithful give witness by this to their communion in faith and charity. Together they testify to God's holiness and their hope of salvation. They strengthen one another under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Failure to attend mass is like failing to attend a family Thanksgiving dinner. It harms not only the person who missed mass, but the entire Church is weakened by his or her absence.
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Laughing Elf
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 12:50 pm |
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CajunRick wrote: From the Catechism:
The Sunday obligation
2181 The Sunday Eucharist is the foundation and confirmation of all Christian practice. For this reason the faithful are obliged to participate in the Eucharist on days of obligation, unless excused for a serious reason (for example, illness, the care of infants) or dispensed by their own pastor. Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit a grave sin.
2182 Participation in the communal celebration of the Sunday Eucharist is a testimony of belonging and of being faithful to Christ and to his Church. The faithful give witness by this to their communion in faith and charity. Together they testify to God's holiness and their hope of salvation. They strengthen one another under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Failure to attend mass is like failing to attend a family Thanksgiving dinner. It harms not only the person who missed mass, but the entire Church is weakened by his or her absence.
I've been hounded by one portion of my family for attending an a Thanksgiving dinner with another part of the family .... I suspect that situation is not being described here. 
Seriously though, as a life long "non Catholic" this is a difficult (meaning never before considered) concept to wrap my mind around.
Now, my father has taught by his good example that we need to be "in the Lord's House" every Sunday, and by God, he was there. He would have heartily embraced this concept. I'll have to chew on this some more. I've become very lazy in recent years.
Thanks for the references.
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Rod
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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 07:36 pm |
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I wrote a short paper on this very issue:
The Sabbath Principle and Christian Sunday Worship / Sunday Obligation to Attend Mass
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Laughing Elf
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Posted: Sat Mar 15th, 2008 01:19 am |
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Dave Armstrong wrote: I wrote a short paper on this very issue:
The Sabbath Principle and Christian Sunday Worship / Sunday Obligation to Attend Mass
Hi Dave,
I read all of the articles on that page under the title "Sunday Obligation to Attend Mass". Darn, it all makes a great deal of sense. That was my unexpected response to the readings. In ignorance I'd supposed this was a trivial issue, and had no idea of the depth of these historical roots. Nor did I realize the theological and mystical relationship that appears to be an underlying presupposition to this obligation.
I also realize that my initial repulsion to the idea comes partially wrapped in my protestant rebellion against authority. When there is no overarching authority, it is easy to kick out at any perceived attempt at "control".
Peace,
Rod
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Posted: Sat Mar 15th, 2008 01:48 am |
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Rod, I just wanted to say that your responsiveness to the truths being revealed to you continues to be a blessing to me.
I think you will also end up falling in love with Church Authority.
Grace and peace,
Becky
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Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 01:38 am |
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Intercessor wrote: [Rod, I just wanted to say that your responsiveness to the truths being revealed to you continues to be a blessing to me.
I think you will also end up falling in love with Church Authority.
Grace and peace,
Becky]
Becky,
That is a nice thing to say. I'm being continuously surprised by the Catholic church. I'm also surprised by my reactions to the church. At times, I've got to check the mirror to insure that "I am me".
I've rebelled against various authorities over the last 3+ decades. While recognizing the usual authorities (the IRS, city-county-state-federal law, the one who signs my paycheck,etc), I've been in rebellion in many ways over the years. Part of the time the rebellion was against the fundamentalist/evangelical upbringing received. That was channelled into rebellion against my parents and various other "fights" over "truth".
One of the gifts of my Buddhist experience was learning from and yielding to the authority structures present. It was that experience that caused me to rethink my relationship to Christianity and start asking questions of my Catholic friends.
I'll have to make this a post on another thread some time because I'm about to open the door to a very large space that might be more suitable on another thread.
Blessings and Peace,
Rod
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Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 05:21 am |
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Laughing Elf wrote:
One of the gifts of my Buddhist experience was learning from and yielding to the authority structures present. It was that experience that caused me to rethink my relationship to Christianity and start asking questions of my Catholic friends.
I'll have to make this a post on another thread some time because I'm about to open the door to a very large space that might be more suitable on another thread.
One's response to the Sunday obligation to attend Mass or to other Church teachings does depend on one's decision about authority structures.
God doesn't waste any of our experience in preparing us, does He? I studied Kung Fu for several months in my early forties and learned a great deal about authority and humility that is now useful to me in the Catholic Church.
I hope you will introduce the other thread.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17th, 2008 06:04 pm |
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Hi Rod,
Praise God! I appreciate your humble, receptive response to this strain of thought. I think perhaps you are seeing now that the Catholic Church has a great measure of truth, and that finding each of these truths in turn gives one a tangible sense of "coming home": that this apostolate is named after.
That was my feeling, anyway, the more I explored Church teaching. I had this strong, repeated sense of "yes, that's right on the money!"
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Posted: Mon Mar 17th, 2008 09:24 pm |
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I'm being continuously surprised by the Catholic church. I'm also surprised by my reactions to the church. At times, I've got to check the mirror to insure that "I am me".
Every day you look in the mirror you can say to yourself truthfully, "I am me." One day, you may also say, "Me is Catholic." Let us know if and when that happens.
Myself, I "fell for" Catholic theology in just a couple weeks. I was so consisently surprised that I predicted part way throguh that I'd be Catholic very soon - and I gave way to the Church's authority next to immediately afterwards. I'm still me, but I like my theology better now. (Now it makes sense.)
In closing, I hope your journey continues to go well for you, Rod.
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Posted: Wed Mar 19th, 2008 12:01 am |
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Dave Armstrong wrote: Hi Rod,
Praise God! I appreciate your humble, receptive response to this strain of thought. I think perhaps you are seeing now that the Catholic Church has a great measure of truth, and that finding each of these truths in turn gives one a tangible sense of "coming home": that this apostolate is named after.
That was my feeling, anyway, the more I explored Church teaching. I had this strong, repeated sense of "yes, that's right on the money!"
Hello Dave,
The walk down this path has been one of the most remarkable in memory. If I'd taken a survey 12 months ago about where on the Christian continuum I'd land in a year, the events of the last 3-4 months would not have been imagined.
I've also read more scripture in the last 3-4 months than in the past 3-4 years combined. This is what has caused me to echo you " yes, that is right on the money!"
The caring concern expressed by those on this forum has really warmed my heart as well. I'm beginning to feel like a "secret Catholic Christian", walking through a Protestant milieu.
Blessings and Peace,
Rod
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Through shadows to the edge of night,
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Posted: Wed Mar 19th, 2008 01:04 am |
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Intercessor wrote: [size=Laughing Elf wrote:
One of the gifts of my Buddhist experience was learning from and yielding to the authority structures present. It was that experience that caused me to rethink my relationship to Christianity and start asking questions of my Catholic friends.
I'll have to make this a post on another thread some time because I'm about to open the door to a very large space that might be more suitable on another thread.
One's response to the Sunday obligation to attend Mass or to other Church teachings does depend on one's decision about authority structures.
God doesn't waste any of our experience in preparing us, does He? I studied Kung Fu for several months in my early forties and learned a great deal about authority and humility that is now useful to me in the Catholic Church.
I hope you will introduce the other thread.]
Becky,
I totally agree with you....with God there is no waste. Everything is recycled. Everything is grist for the mill.
I certainly resonate with your comments on Kung Fu. My recent entry into the martial arts has been Tai Chi. Every bit of my practice slowed me down, and pulled my body-mind out from under the cloud of mental clutter that threatened to suffocate me............then! To my utter surprise, a new spate of back troubles take me out of that setting, and then bring me into contact with this forum. 
Peace and Blessings,
Rod
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