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Ali
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| First Name: | Ali | | Gender: | Female | | Faith History: | JW, finally fully Catholic |
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Posted: Wed Apr 18th, 2007 01:02 pm |
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I know this can be a very loaded subject, but it's something that I've thought a lot about, and I have questions regarding.
I, personally, strive for what I call respectful parenting. I'm not one to read parenting books, but I do believe in gentle, attached parenting. I also allow my kids to suffer natural consequenses. I don't battle over to many things. Don't want to wear a coat? Ok, but don't complain when you are cold. Want long hair? Then you must take care of it and keep it neat, which may involve me brushing out tangles that hurt  Stuff like that.
So along comes spanking/beating/whatever you call them. I'm not talking about abuse when I use those words interchangably. First of all, I cannot see Jesus *ever* physically striking anyone. Secondly, I cannot see hitting as a natural consequence. Thirdly, (not that I haven't, or don't have the urge) it goes against my feelings of a mother to cause harm or pain to my children.
But IRT the sacrement of reconciliation. If the priest has you do a pennance that might be punative (as I see spanking), or cause you pain, is it all relative? Maybe I'm not understanding the sacrement all that well, and have overthought this whole thing, it's been know to happen I guess what I'm asking is, can you equate spanking as a punishment/disipline tool to a pennance received from a priest?
Clear as mud? Hopefully someone understands where my reasoning was heading.
Ali
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CajunRick
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Posted: Wed Apr 18th, 2007 01:28 pm |
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Ali wrote: sacrement
Gentle correction: "sacrAment".
can you equate spanking as a punishment/disipline tool to a pennance received from a priest?
Some people will equate the tragedy at Virginia Tech with the wrath of a vengeful God.
I swatted my daughter once on the butt. The look on her face broke my heart, and for a long time afterward, she looked at me with fear instead of love whenever I was angry. I will never forget seeing her cringe. That was/is my punishment for losing my temper. It never happened again.
God loves me infinitely more than I love my daughter. I cannot imagine how it must hurt God to see us in fear of God's love. I think a penance from a priest could more appropriately be compared to grounding, or a time-out. It's not a punishment, it's an opportunity to reflect on our sinfulness.
Still, God must occasionally get our attention, and a "swat on the butt" is not a bad metaphor for God's gentle way to make us notice our mistakes. We complain and cry, but we're better people for the correction.
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Understanding is the reward of faith. Therefore seek not to understand that you may believe, but believe that you may understand. - Augustine
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BodRod
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Posted: Wed Apr 18th, 2007 04:33 pm |
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cajunrick wrote: We complain and cry, but we're better people for the correction.
Only if we accept the correction and learn from it.
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DrDave
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Posted: Wed Apr 18th, 2007 10:44 pm |
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An important distinction to keep in mind is that pain in and of itself is primarily a good thing - hunger pains tell us to eat - the pain of an injury prompts us to seek medical assistance. The problem comes with the INTENTIONAL causing of pain, and with all sins it is the intent that is the primary consideration
Regards Dave
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