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Esther
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 Posted: Wed May 9th, 2007 01:15 pm

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What is the Church's stance on fertility drugs? I was reading in the CC about it and it was talking about reasonable measures. What exactly would be consider reasonable, and what would be we are trying to create life ourselves?

If a woman has a threatening situation would it be ok for her to have a hysterectomy? When is it ok to have a hysterectomy and when is it not?

What if this happened early in life (before you were married) that you found that you were infertile... how would the Church view your marriage, if it was a known fact that you would never have kids? Since there is no real openness to life, would the marriage still be sacramental? 



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 Posted: Wed May 9th, 2007 02:48 pm

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Esther wrote: What is the Church's stance on fertility drugs? I was reading in the CC about it and it was talking about reasonable measures. What exactly would be consider reasonable, and what would be we are trying to create life ourselves?

Medication to increase fertility is acceptable, but the Church does not permit artificial insemination from donor sperm, in vitro fertilization, and "reduction" (i.e., abortion to reduce the number of children being carried).

"Reasonable measures" are different in different circumstances, and must be judged accordingly.

If a woman has a threatening situation would it be ok for her to have a hysterectomy? When is it ok to have a hysterectomy and when is it not?
If it is medically necessary, it is OK.  It is not OK when it is performed for the purpose of sterilization.

What if this happened early in life (before you were married) that you found that you were infertile... how would the Church view your marriage, if it was a known fact that you would never have kids? Since there is no real openness to life, would the marriage still be sacramental?
Yes.  Many children have been born to "infertile" women.  How many couples have you known who didn't have children until after they'd given up, or even adopted?

On the other hand, if one partner has been voluntarily sterilized or had surgery that resulted in infertillity and did not disclose that fact to the other partner, that would be grounds to have the marriage declared null.




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Is the church against the use of drugs to treat erectile disfunction or things like Viagra that are to help men in a state of sexual decline? Do we believe we just have to accept this as nature, or does it depend on how old we are or how much one needed it. Like would it be wrong to use something like that if it was not necessary but were just trying to see what it could do?   

BTW as a single young and unmarried person and sexually inactive person (for now) I am not asking as someone who needs to know for personal reasons :) just someone who is curious if it was mentioned in conversation. 


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As I understand it, products such as Viagra are intended to aid the natural function, not to interfere with it. Therefore, they have a legitimate use, and the Church would not oppose this. There may be abuses of this and similar drugs — something I am not familiar with — and of course these would be opposed by the Church simply because they are abuses.

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brian wrote: Is the church against the use of drugs to treat erectile disfunction or things like Viagra that are to help men in a state of sexual decline? Do we believe we just have to accept this as nature, or does it depend on how old we are or how much one needed it.
If it is medically necessary, its use is acceptable.  It does not interfere with the natural process of procreation but allows it in certain circumstances where it is otherwise medically impossible.

Like would it be wrong to use something like that if it was not necessary but were just trying to see what it could do?
That is abuse and is both morally and medically wrong.  And any doctor who would prescribe such a drug in those circumstances should have his license revoked.  There are health risks associated with every medication, and taking the risks with no need for the benefit is just plain stupid.

I am quite familiar with complications of diabetes, and some men with diabetes become impotent as early as their mid-30's (I knew one in his 20's).  This can be disastrous for a young married couple that wants to have children, so medications for ED are a real blessing for them.  They're not just for old men.



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