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brian
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Posted: Sun Nov 19th, 2006 03:30 am |
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I have read a lot of orthodox news sources that are very upset about the wau the US has politically sided against Serbian Christians and how Clinton ended up killing more people with his bombing than what croatia suffered. They also show how Croatia is a very brutal country who is possibly most sypathetyc to Hitler and how they were the most brutal in their concentration camps. These sources talk about how weird it is for America to side with Croatia and certain Arab allies.
However, others tell me that orthodox Serbians has murdered so many croatian catholics. i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to view this issue, not only in light of ecumenical spirit with the orthodox serbians i know, ut just in general. i know both sides must be guilty of so much, but i am wondering what to think.
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles6/KincaidClinton.php
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061118/wl_afp/croatiavukovar_061118135823
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David W. Emery
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Posted: Sun Nov 19th, 2006 08:26 am |
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Brian, these are vendettas that go back in history. They can be likened to the animosities in Northern Ireland or those between the Arabs and the Jews. I would pay no attention to the rhetoric and see these attacks for what they are: a continuance of long-standing ethnic hatred and violence that sin against God and man alike.
David
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brian
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Posted: Sun Nov 19th, 2006 10:32 am |
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that is true. but it does not help me understand why the US did what it did, and if we chose the right side to defend. were you in a position of political importance and needed to make a decision i do not think you could just say that.
now i know that i am not in such a position and need not worrry about it, but i do think to be socially aware and to stand up for the opressed is important. Serbia is being presented to me by some of my orthodox brothers as opressed so i am curious as to how i should defend them or speak out for them, or if they are misleading me.
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David W. Emery
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Posted: Sun Nov 19th, 2006 02:09 pm |
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The U.S. involvement had to do with the breakup of the communist regime in the former Yugoslavia. Prior to the communist takeover, there had been several separate countries. They realigned into their pre-communist entities when the communist regime collapsed. Serbia, however, attempted to keep the entire territory together under Serbian rule, and so Serbian troops invaded each seceding country in turn. As it turned out, the only real success the Serbs had was in Bosnia-Herzegovina. This country, not Croatia, was the zone of American concern.
The Serbian feud with Croatia goes back a thousand years, and Croatia was not a direct party to the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina. So your Orthodox friends are barking up the wrong tree in this regard. Once Serbia was defeated, there was evidence of attempted genocide perpetrated by the Serbian government. As a result, a number of officials, including the president, were deposed, tried and sentenced for war crimes.
As you can see, none of this has religious implications aside from the historical Orthodox–Catholic quarrel, which again is mostly ethnic in nature. So as far as I am concerned, what I said earlier about ethnic conflicts covers the issue. Whether the rhetoric is political or religious in nature, regardless of which side it comes from, it is just so much ethnic rant.
David
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