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CajunRick
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Posted: Sat Feb 16th, 2008 01:07 pm |
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Washington DC, Feb 16, 2008 / 05:35 am (CNA).- A pro-life nurse is seconding a statement made by Alan Keyes that Jesus Christ would not vote for Barack Obama, pointing to his support for infanticide.
Jill Stanek is a nurse who discovered babies were being aborted alive and shelved to die in soiled utility rooms while working at a hospital in Illinois and since has been a strong advocate against partial-birth and live-birth abortions.
According to her commentary on WorldNetDaily.com, Stanek explains why Keyes made his statement.
At the federal level, legislation was presented called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act (BAIPA) which stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted.
BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote and by an overwhelming majority in the House. President Bush signed the bill into law in 2002.
Stanek wrote that, “in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. It only passed in 2005, after Obama left.”
“Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed.”
“So, the reason Keyes said Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for Barack Obama was because of Obama's fanatical support of abortion to the point of condoning infanticide.”
In a recent USA Today opinion piece, Obama admitted being "nagged" by the Jesus-wouldn't-vote-for-him statement, but only because he wished he'd given a different comeback.
Obama’s initial response, as stated in USA Today was “that we live in a pluralistic society, and that I can't impose my religious views on another.” He added that he was running to be the U.S. senator of Illinois, and not a minister.
Stanek summarized Obama’s second response saying that “Obama insinuated opposition to abortion is based only on religion, lecturing pro-lifers like me to ‘explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.’”
“I don't recall mentioning religion when I testified against live-birth abortion. I only recall describing a live aborted baby I held in a hospital soiled utility room until he died, and a live aborted baby who was accidentally thrown into the trash,” she told WorldNetDaily.
Yet, Stanek pointed out that religion was never part of the abortion ban debate. “I recall comparisons made to U.S. laws ensuring animals being killed are treated humanely. I recall testimony that late-term babies feel excruciating pain while being aborted.”
Stanek concluded by asking Obama, why do “you think Jesus should vote for you?”
The above article is reposted with permission from Catholic News Agency.
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BodRod
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Posted: Sun Feb 17th, 2008 02:46 am |
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| Is there anyone left in the race ,and who has a chance of winning, who is FOR SURE pro-life?
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CajunRick
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Posted: Sun Feb 17th, 2008 03:26 am |
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BodRod wrote: Is there anyone left in the race ,and who has a chance of winning, who is FOR SURE pro-life?
Attached is a flyer from the National Right to Life Committee comparing the positions of Huckabee, McCain, and Paul among the Republicans, and Clinton and Obama among the democrats.
Assuming that Huckabee and Paul will not receive their party's nominations and McCain will be the Republican nominee, he is by far the closest thing to a pro-life candidate even though he supports embryonic stem cell research. Both Clinton and Obama are completely anti-life.
Attachment: allcandidatescomparison.pdf (Downloaded 5 times)
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JillD
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Posted: Sun Feb 17th, 2008 05:19 pm |
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Don Feder, one of my favorite political commentators, recently posted an article about how non-conservative McCain really is. This is from the article which can be found here:
http://www.donfeder.com/
Abortion – McCain’s vaunted pro-life voting record reflects the views of his Arizona constituents more than any real commitment. He supports subsidies for embryonic stem-cell research. In 2000, he told the San Francisco Examiner that “certainly in the short term, even in the long-term I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade.” (He later reversed himself under pro-life pressure.) Most critics view McCain-Feingold as an assault on the First Amendment, which it certainly is. It’s also one of the most destructive anti-life measures ever enacted by Congress. Under this so-called Campaign Finance Reform, a pro-life group can’t run ads criticizing the record of a pro-abortion legislator within 60 days of a general election or 30 days of a primary. Needless to say, there’s no similar gag-rule for McCain’s buddies in the mainstream media. Elsewhere on the family-values front, McCain voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment. He says it’s because he wants states to decide the definition of marriage (the only instance in which he’s on record favoring federalism), which is the same as saying he wants activist judges to decide.
Just for information's sake... I wish a good 3rd party candidate would fall from the sky...
Jill
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EMarshallBuckles
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 02:24 am |
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Columnist Charles Krauthammer recently wrote a column, appearing in our local newspaper and syndicated nationally, in which he put forth his opinion that if Obama gets elected President, the United States is going to be in for a rude awakening about him when his administration gets started - and I agree with him, based on what I have read and heard about Obama (and I say that without any sort of racist feeling, I would just have preferred that the first African American President be someone like General Colin Powell or Secretary of State Dr. Condoleeza Rice or Ambassador Alan Keyes). Even so, I think that the "good thing" about an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama Presidency and Vice Presidency (and, yes, I will risk a prediction that Hillary and Obama will likely run together) will very possibly be that there may be a conservative "backlash", in the state governments and, later, in the Congress, when strongly pro-life, somewhat conservative candidates get elected to office as a sort of "hedge" or, to borrow current computer terms, a sort of "firewall", ha, ha, against liberal advances. Of course, I think that we oughta draft CajunRick and BodRod and make 'em run for President and Vice President whether they want to or not! 
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CajunRick
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 02:29 am |
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EMarshallBuckles wrote: I think that we oughta draft CajunRick and BodRod and make 'em run for President and Vice President whether they want to or not!
If you can get us nominated and elected, I'll take the job. I can use the money!
Boy, you talk about a country in for a rude awakening!!! How about it, Cliff, you interested?
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