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Posted: Fri Nov 17th, 2006 11:19 pm |
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Vatican City, Nov. 17, 2006 (CNA) - A Vatican official who attended yesterday’s meeting between Pope Benedict XVI and the heads of Vatican dicasteries to discuss the case of Archbishop Emmanuel Milingo and priestly celibacy, told CNA that the future of the rebellious former Archbishop of Lusaka (Zambia) “depends almost exclusively on his own decisions.”
Yesterday evening, after the almost 3 hour long meeting with the Holy Father, the Vatican released a statement confirming the centrality of celibacy in priestly life, but made no reference to the future of Milingo.
“In the Apostolic Palace this morning, November 16, the Holy Father presided at one of the regular meetings of the heads of dicasteries of the Roman Curia, for a moment of shared reflection,” the official statement released yesterday said.
"The participants in the meeting had at their disposal detailed information concerning requests for dispensation from the obligation of celibacy presented during recent years, and concerning the possibility of readmission to the exercise of the ministry of priests who currently meet the conditions established by the Church.”
"The value of the choice of priestly celibacy in accordance with Catholic tradition was reaffirmed, and the need for solid human and Christian formation was underlined, both for seminaries and for ordained priests," the official statement concluded.
Asked by CNA what was decided about Archbishop Milingo, the Vatican official, speaking on condition of anonymity, emphasized that the meeting between the Pope and the heads of the Vatican dicasteries “was one of consultation, not an executive one,” and therefore, no immediate policies were established.
“The Holy Father listened carefully to all opinions, and from there it is up to him how and even if he will act upon the recommendations,” the source told CNA.
Nevertheless, the Vatican official recalled that at present Archbishop Milingo has been excommunicated, and that “the only way (for him) to change that condition is to repent, make a public statement of his repentance and make the proportional material and spiritual reparations for the damage and scandal created by his latest decision.”
The official admitted that such reparations would include “changing completely his lifestyle and disappearing from public life altogether,” especially considering that “this is the second time he is a source of a major scandal.”
Asked if he though it was likely to convince Milingo to come back to the Church for a life of penance, considering the level of public exposure he enjoys and also considering he has signed a commercial agreement with “Da Vinci Code’s” Dan Brown to advise him in his next project, the official responded: “the Church works always on the assumption that the human heart can always open itself to God’s grace and come back to God’s path.”
The above article is reposted with permission from the Catholic News Agency.
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Posted: Sat Nov 18th, 2006 02:42 am |
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Dear Cajunrick,
How did Archbishop Milingo sin against the Catholic Church and his priestly vows? I guess I'm a bit out of the loop, so to speak, when it comes to the affairs of Vatican City.
Darlene
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Posted: Sat Nov 18th, 2006 02:59 am |
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Darlene wrote: How did Archbishop Milingo sin against the Catholic Church and his priestly vows? I guess I'm a bit out of the loop, so to speak, when it comes to the affairs of Vatican City.
Well, first he was married in a group marriage ceremony by Reverend Sun Myung Moon of the Unification Church (commonly known as the "Moonies").
When he was called down by Pope John Paul II, he recanted the marriage and sought forgiveness. He promised to "clean up his act".
Recently, however, he has surfaced in the United States, married again, and he has been ordaining married men to be priests and bishops without Vatican permission.
If you search for "milingo" here and on the old forum (once Steve fixes it again), you'll see a history of abuses by Milingo going back more than a decade.
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BettyBoopToo
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Posted: Sun Nov 19th, 2006 12:42 am |
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I just read this and was going to post it too. I don't understand what the ArchBishop's motive's are. The more I read about his activities, It seems he has a larger agenda than just celibacy.
The official admitted that such reparations would include “changing completely his lifestyle and disappearing from public life altogether,” especially considering that “this is the second time he is a source of a major scandal.”
Asked if he though it was likely to convince Milingo to come back to the Church for a life of penance, considering the level of public exposure he enjoys and also considering he has signed a commercial agreement with “Da Vinci Code’s” Dan Brown to advise him in his next project, the official responded: “the Church works always on the assumption that the human heart can always open itself to God’s grace and come back to God’s path.”
What was the first scandal? "The Da Vinci Code". I wonder how this gentleman even bacame an Arch-Bishop? He must have been a good priest at some time in his life. I also wonder what caused him to turn into a Renegade like this. The powers of evil must have their hooks deep in him. We should all pray for him.
I have Father Corapi's series called "End Game", He covers some stuff about what happens to priest and how they find themselves in these type's of situation's.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=7724 Milingo says he rejects excommunication notice
It's disappointing when people cause scandal like this in the church. His comment on rejecting the excommunication reminds me of some writhings of Luther's. What a shame.
He apparently has four other priest involved in the scandal too.
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Betty
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Posted: Sun Nov 19th, 2006 12:54 am |
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I'm a slow typer, I guess Rick already answered some of my questions above.
Moonies Huh! Wow, I guess he rolled off the tracks a long time ago.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=7650 I just had to check out this other article too and thought I'd add it here to the thread incase anyone else is interested.
Now I'm wondering if he's possibly mentally ill? (I don't mean that in an ugly way) I just think his behavior is very bizare.
How on earth does one go from being a Catholic ArchBishop to a group marriage ceremony by the moonies?
Well that has certainly given me something to ponder. I'll add him to my prayer intentions too.
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Last edited on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 01:01 am by BettyBoopToo
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Posted: Sun Nov 19th, 2006 01:15 am |
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BettyBoopToo wrote: What was the first scandal? "The Da Vinci Code".
The first scandal was his marriage in the Unification Church in 2001. It was at this time that he "retired" from his position as archbishop. His retirement was not voluntary.
He did apologize to Pope John Paul II after that incident and went into seclusion, but then he resurfaced in Washington, D.C., with his Korean wife, and started ordaining married men to the priesthood and eventually to bishop.
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Posted: Sun Nov 19th, 2006 01:29 am |
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There is more to the story. Even while Milingo was head of a diocese in Africa back in the 70s, he was deep into faith healing and, apparently, folkloric occult practices. This prompted the Vatican to “bump him upstairs” by assigning him a job in Rome, so they could avoid public scandal and keep a better eye on him. His “marriage” was after that.
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Posted: Tue Nov 21st, 2006 03:20 pm |
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Maybe the only way this Milingo will ever get his due punishment in this world is for the Vatican to borrow a tactic from the Amish and shun the public life out of him. He lives for publicity and it's also time for the 4th estate to shun him, too. He's a waste of their ink and valuable air-time.
I'd like to know why he hasn't been defrocked. As a bishop he certainly brought the Church another headache of shame it didn't need.
Let him join the Moonies.
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Posted: Tue Nov 21st, 2006 09:23 pm |
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Steven Barrett wrote: Maybe the only way this Milingo will ever get his due punishment in this world is for the Vatican to borrow a tactic from the Amish and shun the public life out of him. He lives for publicity and it's also time for the 4th estate to shun him, too. He's a waste of their ink and valuable air-time.
Yeah, like the news media is going to avoid a Catholic "scandal"! That's not going to happen.
I'd like to know why he hasn't been defrocked. As a bishop he certainly brought the Church another headache of shame it didn't need.
He has been much worse than "defrocked". He's been excommunicated. In essence, this is the Catholic equivalent of Amish shunning. However, the Church continues to reach out to him and offer forgiveness, because that's what Jesus would do.
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