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Posted: Fri May 11th, 2007 02:44 pm |
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| My son was invited to dinner by a protestant born again family to get to know their daughter, My son Joseph just turned twenty,He works at the Deli here in town, and the mom and daughter often stop by to buy coldcuts,The daughter is very pretty my son says and the mom invited him over for dinner to meet the family, which I consider an honor , the mom said she saw the light of Christ in his eyes,,he went to dinner and spent time with the family,they are protestants , born again, Joseph said the conversation went well but he knew not to mention the blessed Mother,,that would have spoiled everything he said,,,,,,,, i told Joe that indeed they know Jesus but to guard his heart,,,,,,,until he comes HERE to research the early church fathers,,,,,,,I am so thankful for this forum The coming Home Network, now I have a place to send my family and friends for support being a catholic and to learn more about our faith so noone can argue that they are not following Jesus,,,,,,,,,Thankyou... Last edited on Fri May 11th, 2007 04:04 pm by Carolyn
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Posted: Fri May 11th, 2007 04:59 pm |
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Carolyn wrote: Joseph said the conversation went well but he knew not to mention the blessed Mother,,that would have spoiled everything he said
But is it fair that he hide his beliefs to please them? I understand that it may have been necessary for an initial meeting, but that certainly should not be his long-term strategy.
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Posted: Fri May 11th, 2007 05:44 pm |
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Thats why i recommend he research his catholic faith here at Coming home network forum ,This is what we are up against when we meet protestants or born again christians I know I coulnt go up against these people they had a convincing agument, But researching why people converted to the catholic faith here at the the Coming Home netWork forum and reading the early church Fathers has given me knowledge in my faith ,unfortunately I didnt have the answers to defend my faith, now I do and my son Joseph has to come here and research, and learn more about how to defend his faith and not be drawn out of the catholic church
.It worries me alittle , he comes a cross a lot of born agains who give him bibles and debate our faith, he has been brought up to love our faith and he is a praticing catholic, but at this age they are testing to see if mom and dad are right,,,,
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Posted: Fri May 11th, 2007 06:17 pm |
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Carolyn wrote: I didnt have the answers to defend my faith, now I do and my son Joseph has to come here and research, and learn more about how to defend his faith and not be drawn out of the catholic church
There are lots of good apologetics sites on the Internet. My favorites are Catholics United for the Faith and Catholic Answers but there are many, many more.
One thing that really helped me when I was his age (and my daughter also) is the knowledge that every other Christian faith can be defined by what's missing. This one doesn't have the liturgy, and that one doesn't have the Magisterium, and the one over there doesn't have the Eucharist. The only faith that cannot be defined by what's missing is the Catholic Church. Even the Orthodox are missing papal authority.
Challenge him to find anything doctrinal in another Christian faith that can't be found in the Catholic faith. No other church has it all.
Maybe that will help to keep him grounded, as it did for me and my daughter.
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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2007 12:40 am |
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Carolyn -
God leads us along paths we may not have otherwise chosen, and so it seems with those He puts in our daily path, like your son's and your's. This is the means of formation He provides for us.
You're in my prayers, and I'm sure as well as others here on the board.
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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2007 11:10 am |
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I am around your son's age, and I can honestly say that you need to watch Protestants. A lot of times they are out to convert a Catholic.
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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2007 11:47 am |
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leavingtheSBC wrote: I am around your son's age, and I can honestly say that you need to watch Protestants. A lot of times they are out to convert a Catholic.
This is a true statement. They will try to convert him in all the love they have. They believe sincerely that they "have the truth". In many Protestant churches "preaching the good news" is more important than anything else... I will pray for your son.
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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2007 01:18 pm |
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smh wrote: leavingtheSBC wrote: I am around your son's age, and I can honestly say that you need to watch Protestants. A lot of times they are out to convert a Catholic.
This is a true statement. They will try to convert him in all the love they have. They believe sincerely that they "have the truth". In many Protestant churches "preaching the good news" is more important than anything else... I will pray for your son.
Dear SMH,
What you say is definitely true, for I was once one of those who tried to convert Catholics. I looked at your profile and noticed that you were raised Catholic then became a Protestant, so it seems that you are able to speak about this subject from personal experience as well. What drew you away from the Catholic faith? Are you being drawn back to the Catholic faith again? If you find these questions too personal, don't feel oblidged to answer them.
God Bless You on your journey of faith.
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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2007 03:46 pm |
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Darlene wrote:
Dear SMH,
What you say is definitely true, for I was once one of those who tried to convert Catholics. I looked at your profile and noticed that you were raised Catholic then became a Protestant, so it seems that you are able to speak about this subject from personal experience as well. What drew you away from the Catholic faith? Are you being drawn back to the Catholic faith again? If you find these questions too personal, don't feel oblidged to answer them.
God Bless You on your journey of faith.
Darlene
It's long a story, I'll try to be brief.... I had fallen away from ANY faith, and at the close of a bad love affair, my best friend found herself in the United Pentecostal Church, she came over, told me she'd found Jesus, and that I needed him too. That sounded like a good thing to me. Over time my friend and I (and her husband) left that church (their version of "Holiness", women have to have long hair, women can't wear make-up, women can't wear jewelry, women can't wear trousers.... etc. prevented us from becoming full fledged members....) and when "shopping" for another church, with Pentecostal leanings (I was hooked on the Holy Ghost at that point and had not been introduced to Catholic Charismatics, or I probably would have stayed with my Catholic roots.) We went to an Independent "fellowship" for a number of years, then the "spiritual projectiles" from the pulpit started and that group dissipated. Anyway, to make a long story short the various groups all had their own set of scriptures they clung to, and over time my friend and her family fell away and moved away. The last church we "belonged to" was the Church of God (where I still play the piano every Sunday.) But over the last few years the Lord has been leading me back to my Catholic roots more and more.
I joined the CHNetwork forums just recently, when I decided I was ready to come home again. (In fact I just got off the phone with the priest with whom I have made an appointment to hear my confession.... I'm very excited, and very nervous.... it's been a very long time....)
I will need a miracle to get totally free of the piano playing at the Church of God (which, to be honest, has become more like a job,) but I will be "home" before today is over.... Hallelujah!
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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2007 07:06 pm |
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When a Protestant converts a Catholic they think of it as a star in their crown. (A crusade if you will). Being raised Southern Baptist, I have seen many young Catholics pulled out of the Roman Catholic Church. Than they grow to hate Catholicism and teach their future children against it.
Tell your son to be very careful. They (protestants) mean well but they can do more damage than good.
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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2007 07:33 pm |
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| Josh, I know,,That is why i am concerned,Joseph is acool kid, so he likes to think,,,,,,,,we dont have all the answers as to why we are Catholic,I just know we are in the right place, my heart tells me so, but when you come up against protestants , theyll say your being decieved, Jesus loves you,do you love Jesus enough to follow him and leave deception, now I know what their saying is wrong but never had the right information to defend my faith, as far as Joe goes hes open to reading the early church fathers and research ,its an ongoing education our faith, i know the more my sister a shouting on the roof top Protestant gave me doubt about the catholic faith, the more I researched and grew deeper in my faith, God bless and Thanks
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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2007 11:14 pm |
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Carolyn,
That is great that Joseph loves to study the church fathers. He will need this to stand against Protestants. They can bring up so many scriptures and verses that can bring a catholic on their knees (If, and ONLY if, that Catholic has no clue about their faith) The way you talk, your son knows about Catholicism...so he can stand firm.
If I may suggest something...meet this girl's parents and ask them if they accept your son being who he is (catholic) If they don't, your son will have to move on. I know this will be difficult...I had to end a relationship with my girlfriend because her family were strictly protestants. They couldn't accept me being Catholic. (All they wanted to do was convert me). But I am still Catholic! So continuing on in the faith keeps me happy/
Good luck and may God bless you and your family.
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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2007 11:15 pm |
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leavingtheSBC wrote: When a Protestant converts a Catholic they think of it as a star in their crown. (A crusade if you will).
The truly sad thing is that they are targeting other Christians. I can't even begin to imagine what Jesus must be thinking about "a house divided" (and yes, I know Lincoln is the one who said that).
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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2007 11:23 pm |
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I can't even begin to imagine what Jesus must be thinking about "a house divided" (and yes, I know Lincoln is the one who said that).
And Lincoln (bless him) was a Protestant. Rick, you know that Lincoln got that line from the one for whom there is no substitute: Jesus himself. See Matthew 12:25.
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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2007 11:52 pm |
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David W. Emery wrote: cajunrick wrote:
I can't even begin to imagine what Jesus must be thinking about "a house divided" (and yes, I know Lincoln is the one who said that).
And Lincoln (bless him) was a Protestant. Rick, you know that Lincoln got that line from the one for whom there is no substitute: Jesus himself. See Matthew 12:25.
Which I suppose only proves I'm a cradle Catholic!
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A cradle Catholic once told me that when her sister became born again, she tried very hard to convert her. My friend stated that she couldn't imagine leaving the Blessed Mother and the Eucharist. When I think about those two beautiful and life giving aspects of our faith, I cannot imagine leaving either. Here are some of the other gifts of our Catholic faith that I could never leave:
1.) The Papacy
2.) Apostolic Succession
3.) Redemptive Suffering
4.) The Communion of Saints
5.) Confession
6.) Sacramentals
7.) Catholic art and architecture
8.) The Liturgical Calendar
9.) Daily Mass
10.) Clear teaching on the dignity of human life
11.) Clear teaching on faith and morals
12.) A connection with the early church
13.) Eucharistic Adoration
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Credo Catholic wrote: the priesthood and women religious.
Don't forget religious men, including priests and brothers.
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Thanks Marsha. I was hoping people would add to my list. Another aspect of the religious life that is amazing to me are the vows. I heard Fr. Groeshel on EWTN the other day say "I began the religious life at age 15. I have never owned anything." Wow!!
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Prodigal Daughter, I visited your web site, very beautiful, the stations of the cross,I would like to register to read the blog on suffering,How do I do this , May i be an invited guest ,thankyou, I really like the name you chose, ProdicalDaughter,I feel like a prodigal Daughter too
Also i noticed you live in Leigh high Valley Is that near Broadheadsville? That was where I spent my summer vacations every year,My cousin is a high ranking officer there and my cousin Rolene is a teacher there too, we are hoping to go to the Stroudesburg fair this year we think our children would love it , God Bless
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Carolyn,
Yes it is a small world. I chose the name Prodigal Daughter from a book by the same title except in the plural form. The book "Prodigal Daughters" is a beautiful compilation of writings from Cradle Catholic women who grew up during the post Vatican II generation and left the Church or got involved in some strange version of Catholicism that was being promoted at the time. Each one has returned with joy to Catholic orthodoxy. I very much related to their stories, being a Catholic baby boomer myself.
Thank you for reading my blog. You do not need an invitation. Just click on the different months on the sidebar to read any of my previous posts. I have compiled writings of Saints and others who have written beautiful and revolutionary thoughts on the mystery of suffering. After Lent I took a break from blogging in favor of my garden. I try to spend most of my free time there nowadays weeding and planting. This week will be time to put all of the annuals in, including herbs and vegetables. That is my favorite part.
The Lehigh Valley is about 45 minutes south of Broadheadsville. What a lovely place to spend your summers. We live in a pretty congested area down here but are hoping to find a quiet community up there or west of here near a nice country church that has daily Mass. God bless.
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Carolyn wrote: Prodigal Daughter, I visited your web site, very beautiful, the stations of the cross,I would like to register to read the blog on suffering,How do I do this , May i be an invited guest ,thankyou, I really like the name you chose, ProdicalDaughter,I feel like a prodigal Daughter too
Also i noticed you live in Leigh high Valley Is that near Broadheadsville? That was where I spent my summer vacations every year,My cousin is a high ranking officer there and my cousin Rolene is a teacher there too, we are hoping to go to the Stroudesburg fair this year we think our children would love it , God Bless
Dear Carolyn,
I live in Effort, which is only about 6 miles from Brodheadsville. We do all our banking and food shopping in Broadheadsville. This area has become very congested over the past 10 years, and esp. since 9/11 when those in the New York City area moved here. The infrastructure has not been able to compensate for the population growth.
Are you sure it is the Stroudsburg fair? We have the West End Fair which is held at the end of August. Very big in these parts. The nondenominational church I attend has a booth there, in which I worked during the last fair.
It would be wonderful to meet you and your family. I would love to actually meet another Catholic; don't know very many of them right now.
God Bless You, Carolyn.
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Oh My God Darlene , it is the West end Fair, its been some time since we went, i forgot the name,My sisters and i use to spend the summer with my fathers family who lived walking distance to the West End pool, we use to pass the House of baskets and the corn field,I hear the house of baskets is gone and they built taxpayers comercial stores there,I remember the Booths at the fair, we have to go this year. .
, when does the fair start? and End, if you could find out I could keep in touch and let you know the day we can come out , we definitly can meet, my sister is looking for ahouse around the lake I think wier Lake I dont remember the name of the lake to well, big old turtle still lives in that lake, i Fell in love with the rolling hills and treesI felt gods presence in the beauty of that area, and I like your name too Darlene my mom was going to name me Darlene, but she named me Carolyn I always wished she named me Darlene, pretty name, Do you have any children ? God Bless
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Carolyn wrote: Oh My God Darlene , it is the West end Fair, its been some time since we went, i forgot the name,My sisters and i use to spend the summer with my fathers family who lived walking distance to the West End pool, we use to pass the House of baskets and the corn field,I hear the house of baskets is gone and they built taxpayers comercial stores there,I remember the Booths at the fair, we have to go this year. .
I think I remember that House of baskets. There is still a large corn field not far from the West End Fair area.
, when does the fair start? and End, if you could find out I could keep in touch and let you know the day we can come out , Not sure, but I know the nondenom. church I attend, Middlecreek Christian Church its called, will be announcing it soon. It is a really big deal at our church. Everyone just about gets involved in one way or another. I'll let you know the dates as soon as I find out, ok? It would be wonderful if we could coordinate this get-together! we definitly can meet, my sister is looking for ahouse around the lake I think wier Lake Does your sister live in this area now? Would this be a summer home or a permanent home? Is your sister a Catholic or Protestant? I know, lots of questions.  I dont remember the name of the lake to well, big old turtle still lives in that lake, i Fell in love with the rolling hills and treesI felt gods presence in the beauty of that area, and I like your name too Darlene my mom was going to name me Darlene, but she named me Carolyn I always wished she named me Darlene, pretty name, Do you have any children ? God Bless
Thanks. I must say, I've always liked my name too. It means, "dearly beloved." Yes, I have two children. Our daughter attends Kutztown University and will be home for the summer. Our son is out of the house and married with two daughters.
I'll keep you posted on everything. God Bless You.
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| Darlene, my sister is a baptized catholic ,but never practiced or researched her faith, now she is a shouting on the roof top protestant,but Istill love her,we have Jesus Mercy in common of which Im grateful and we are garden buddies,,,,,,,she owns a house in the Bronx , Ny. and has it up for sale,shes been looking in broadheadsvilee, we have talked about that lake for years ,and figure if she moves out there,she will have a beautiful life being in the country,shes newly divorced and has three children, she will become a nurse soon,we have discussed where the best place to move would be for her so she can finish nursing school and finish raising her children,and moving out to where we vacationed as children would be a blessing,for debbie and for me and my family cause wed have a place to visit and remanisse of our childhood with our ch | | |
