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Posted: Mon Dec 10th, 2007 03:44 pm

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Any time I try to correct an incorrect statement made by either protestants or ex catholics I get told " Yes but you just became Catholic" ( so obviously don't know what I am talking about). The same phrase used by either protestant or secular friends and family " she just became Catholic gives the unspoken subtext " it is just a phase that she is going through- like a 3 yr old's temper tantrums or a teen's flirtation with being a vegetarian. On the other hand I have not heard those words from a practicing Catholic.

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Posted: Mon Dec 10th, 2007 04:31 pm

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Hi Kim,

People often try to dismiss ideas and opinions for something other than a "reasonable reason." I would go on to say something like, "well, maybe I am new, but that has no bearing on whether x is true or not. If you disagree with me, please explain why, but don't just go after me as a person, which is the ad hominem fallacy and doesn't prove anything at all."

In other words, put the burden on them to back up what they say. They either will or they'll get mad, but at least you won't let the dumb dismissal pass. And they probably won't pull it again, so it helps you too, to be less frustrated.

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Posted: Mon Dec 10th, 2007 04:36 pm

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I've heard it from everybody, including practicing Catholics. Oh well. Stupid is as stupid does.

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Posted: Mon Dec 10th, 2007 05:17 pm

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Kim, the only persons who have made that remark to me were practicing Catholics. Their point seemed to be that new Catholics are too enthralled with the wonder of it all to see Catholicism or the Church objectively.

The first year I was married, my mother used to say, "Just wait until you've been married twenty-five years. Then you'll sing a different tune about marriage and husbands." But, of course, after thirty-four years of marriage, I found both marriage and my husband to be even more wondrous than they were the first year.

I fully expect to have the same experience with Catholicism and the Church.

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Posted: Mon Dec 10th, 2007 05:27 pm

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I fully expect to have the same experience with Catholicism and the Church.

No doubt, but it need not take 25 years!

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Posted: Mon Dec 10th, 2007 05:38 pm

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I use the term frequently. But in the circles I travel it is accepted as a known quantity that those who "just became Catholic" are newly-illumined and likely more orthodox than some "cradle Catholics"!

In my world, those that "just became Catholic" as adults... who chose the Catholic faith over all else, and came to it with full acceptance can generally be counted on to accept the fullness of the Faith more often then those who begin sentences "I was raised Catholic but..."

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 12:51 am

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Haha. Yes. Kim, the term is called "ad hominem circumstantial." ((Glad that Logic course came in good for something.))

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 12:57 am

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Kayla wrote: Haha. Yes. Kim, the term is called "ad hominem circumstantial." ((Glad that Logic course came in good for something.))

Boy!!! I wish I had gone to that there schoolhouse down yonder by the creek. (Hee, hee, hee!!!)

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BodRod wrote: Kayla wrote: Haha. Yes. Kim, the term is called "ad hominem circumstantial." ((Glad that Logic course came in good for something.))

Boy!!! I wish I had gone to that there schoolhouse down yonder by the creek. (Hee, hee, hee!!!)
You went, Criff. It just ended in sixth grade. I realize it's been so long you don't remember...

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 02:29 am

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Long ago ?????? You forget, I am only 39 years old.

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 02:41 am

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+BodRod wrote: Long ago ?????? You forget, I am only 39 years old.

Yes, but you've been 39 longer than Jack Benny.

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 03:05 am

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Y'all have definitely just lost me.

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 03:46 am

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Kayla wrote: Y'all have definitely just lost me.

hmmm. Whereabouts?

(Jack Benny was an entertainer who claimed to be 39 into his 60s...)

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 08:38 am

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Y'all have definitely just lost me.

When I read Kayla's comment, I had to laugh!

I think they named "Fossil fuel" after me. :shock:

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 09:38 am

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My dh heard a good one yesterday. He was talking to a Baptist at his (new) work and told him about this weekend. The Baptist replied by saying "Oh, I'm sorry to hear that". LOL, and sad all at the same time. Then he starting talking about how Catholics added all those extra books to the Bible. Dh isn't quite good enough to argue (either that, or he isn't quite as stubborn as me), so he let it go.

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 11:14 am

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Kayla,

Don't worry about it. Rick is just picking on me AGAIN!!! He does that because I am little and defenseless.

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 05:12 pm

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You forget, I am only 39 years old.

You too? I knew we had a lot in common . . .

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 11:45 pm

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BodRod wrote: Don't worry about it. Rick is just picking on me AGAIN!!! He does that because I am little and defenseless.
No, it's because you're so much older than me. I won't be 21 until next year (remember, I started counting over at my overhaul in 1987).

So I won't even be 39 for another 19 years! You know what that makes you? (The name Methuselah comes to mind.)

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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 11:53 pm

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CajunRick wrote: (The name Methuselah comes to mind.)

Now THAT is a funny line!!!

Let's see, you are claiming you are 20 and Dave says he is 39. Hmmmmmmmmm. Will I be seeing you all in the Reconciliation line this Saturday???

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Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 12:22 am

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BodRod wrote: CajunRick wrote: (The name Methuselah comes to mind.)

Now THAT is a funny line!!!

Let's see, you are claiming you are 20 and Dave says he is 39. Hmmmmmmmmm. Will I be seeing you all in the Reconciliation line this Saturday???

You guys are just too funny! But I just have to jump in by saying... And they say women lie about their age?!

P.S. Yeah, yeah, Rick... I know. I know. Getting off topic and all that, but you guys started it!

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Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 12:31 am

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I'll have you know Cheri, I have went to that there schoolhouse down yonder and got edumacated so I do not lie. However, I may prevaricate occasionally.

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Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 12:46 am

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Talithacumi wrote: BodRod wrote: CajunRick wrote: (The name Methuselah comes to mind.)

Now THAT is a funny line!!!

Let's see, you are claiming you are 20 and Dave says he is 39. Hmmmmmmmmm. Will I be seeing you all in the Reconciliation line this Saturday???

You guys are just too funny! But I just have to jump in by saying... And they say women lie about their age?!

I'm not lying. It is common to measure a car's mileage from the last engine overhaul, so I started counting over when they overhauled my heart. Dave and Criff have to answer for themselves.

P.S. Yeah, yeah, Rick... I know. I know. Getting off topic and all that, but you guys started it!

The topic of this thread is pet peeves. That covers a whole lot of territory!

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Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 02:28 am

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CajunRick wrote: Talithacumi wrote:

I'm not lying. It is common to measure a car's mileage from the last engine overhaul, so I started counting over when they overhauled my heart.

So Rick, are you claiming to be Dick VanDykes Mother?

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Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 02:55 am

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BodRod wrote: CajunRick wrote: Talithacumi wrote:

I'm not lying. It is common to measure a car's mileage from the last engine overhaul, so I started counting over when they overhauled my heart.

So Rick, are you claiming to be Dick VanDykes Mother?
Nope. It was Jerry Van Dyke's TV mother, Ann Sothern. I actually remembered, but I looked it up to make sure I was right.

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Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 03:14 am

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I understand. You would know more about those ^_OLD TV programs than I would. I am dependent on history books about them while you probably watch the shows first run.

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Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 10:00 am

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BodRod wrote: I understand. You would know more about those ^_OLD TV programs than I would. I am dependent on history books about them while you probably watch the shows first run.
I vaguely remember hearing the cartoon versions in utero.

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Posted: Thu Dec 13th, 2007 04:27 pm

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At least I look 39. Even younger if I dye my goatee, like my wife wants me to . . .

And the pic to the left was taken in 2000, when I was 42. Less grey in the beard then!

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