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 Posted: Thu Dec 27th, 2007 10:52 pm

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Okay.  I've been looking into some options for my undergraduate studies in theology.  I was looking at the theology department's website again, and I came across this:

Undergraduate students may, with the permission of the university's dean for academic affairs and the dean of studies of the seminary, register for courses offered in Mount St. Mary's Seminary.

I do not the extent to which undergrads can take courses at the seminary and whether or not one can actually do a concentration that is outside of the university's offered concentrations (which are Youth Ministry, Pastoral Ministry, and Religious Education), but I plan on inquiring on such matters.  It may only be that undergrads can take courses at the seminary to count as electives towards an undergrad degree.  Or, it may be possible to take several courses to receive a different concentration.

At any rate, the seminary offers courses in Church History, Sacred Scripture, Moral Theology, and a few others that are mostly aimed towards those seeking the priesthood.

If I were able to take a few courses, what would be your recommendation?  I would personally like to take some courses in Church History, just so that I can actually be knowledgeable in that area.  But, I am also thinking that Sacred Scripture would be good, as it would possibly be something I would be getting my Masters in.

I don't know.  I'm just toying around with ideas.  I should like to get some good theology in, ya know?  I don't know if I would be willing to take courses at the seminary by myself (I may have been one of the only girls and non-seminarian in my Logic course last semester, but at least that WAS a university course, first and foremost).  And I don't know if it would even be appropriate for a female to do so, but then again, the note did say it was possible... 

Anywho.  Just some thoughts.  I want to get the best out of my education.



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 Posted: Thu Dec 27th, 2007 11:09 pm

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Hi Kayla,

It's a little difficult to recommend courses because it depends on what you are looking to do as a career, and what interests you the most (given a choice). For my money, you can't go wrong with any of those three choices. You can never learn enough about Scripture, and it is always a blessing to do so.

Church history helps you get a "long view" perspective of the Church and gives you helpful knowledge in understanding other groups too.

Moral theology is the important area of how to live the Christian life and to comprehend the moral teaching of the Church, which is always valuable for the Christian walk.

Generally speaking, I myself am a big advocate of "following your interest" as far as possible. God put certain desires and abilities and gifts in all of us and it is our job to put them to good use. By using this approach I have managed to keep a high motivation for learning new things now at age 49, with no end in sight!

You have already mentioned the Scripture and history courses, so by following your present desires, you can't go far wrong!

I can tell you'll be a great student! Best wishes in your studies.



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 Posted: Thu Dec 27th, 2007 11:26 pm

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Hi Kayla,

I think the Church History course would be interesting. I have read a little in that area, as I have traveled along my Journey, and  I have found it most interesting. I am amused by that since I NEVER liked history when I was in school. However, the church history I have read recently is so intertwined with world history that it comes out as stories about real people and real events rather than just a bunch of names and dates.

Best wishes for you in whatever you decide to do.

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 Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 12:57 am

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Kayla wrote: At any rate, the seminary offers courses in Church History, Sacred Scripture, Moral Theology, and a few others that are mostly aimed towards those seeking the priesthood.
I vote for Church History, but I do so readily admitting that it would be my own choice.  You may have noticed from the forum that I am fascinated by the various human interactions that have affected the historical Church, and the fact that despite all of the political maneuvering and sinful behavior in the Church heirarchy, the Holy Spirit has remained firmly in charge.  The influence of such unlikely people as St. Francis of Asissi, St Theresa of Lisieux, St. Gregory the Great, Blessed Teresa of Calcutta, and John Paul II, amazes me.  Even the election of John XXIII, to me, is proof of the working of the Holy Spirit in the halls of the Vatican, often against the wishes of the powers-that-be.

But as I say, I'm quite prejudiced.  You need to study what will fascinate you.


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 Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 01:04 am

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CajunRick wrote:   You need to study what will fascinate you.

I agree! That is VERY important, Kayla. :)



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 Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 01:11 am

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BodRod wrote: CajunRick wrote:   You need to study what will fascinate you.

I agree! That is VERY important, Kayla. :)


But... it ALL fascinates me!!!!!!!

I want to learn it all. :shock:



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 Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 01:19 am

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Is there an area that interests you more than others as a starting place?


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 Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 02:02 am

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If I may respectfully offer a suggestion, if I was in your situation, I might look at the seminary curriculum requirements for the basic required courses for the Master's degree curriculum in which you are interested in pursuing. Taking some of the basic required courses now, as an undergraduate, might free you up, when you become a graduate student, to take more advanced courses in areas of your interest.  I have heard of some seminaries, law schools, graduate schools and even medical schools allowing undergraduates to do that so that they "get a head start" on their Masters or professional degrees.  Sounds like a wonderful opportunity and sounds like you are a highly intelligent young lady!  Go for it and best wishes to you!  I'll look forward to reading about you getting all sorts of major academic awards and your Nobel Prize too! 

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 Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 02:25 am

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EMarshallBuckles wrote: If I may respectfully offer a suggestion, if I was in your situation, I might look at the seminary curriculum requirements for the basic required courses for the Master's degree curriculum in which you are interested in pursuing. Taking some of the basic required courses now, as an undergraduate, might free you up, when you become a graduate student, to take more advanced courses in areas of your interest.  I have heard of some seminaries, law schools, graduate schools and even medical schools allowing undergraduates to do that so that they "get a head start" on their Masters or professional degrees.  Sounds like a wonderful opportunity and sounds like you are a highly intelligent young lady!  Go for it and best wishes to you!  I'll look forward to reading about you getting all sorts of major academic awards and your Nobel Prize too! 

Interesting, Marshall, I hadn't even thought of that...  It's brilliant!

I wonder...  I guess the only objection that keeps coming to mind for me is the thought that, well, it is a seminary.  I know that the seminary is open for non-seminarians to do their graduate studies, but I don't know how often this is actually done.  Nor do I know how often under-grads take classes over at the seminary.  Specifically how often women do so.  I don't know how awkward it would be for them or for myself.  I don't want to intrude on their studies or environment if you know what I mean.

I suppose I'll just have to look into it, see if it's acceptable or not even.  If it is...  this may be a very great opportunity for me.  And one that I would be highly interested in taking.



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 Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 02:38 am

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Well, ma'am, you are extremely kind in suggesting that my remark was brilliant, ha, ha! Even so, I think that you likely ARE brilliant, highly intelligent, as I suggested above! So, with that in mind, if the seminary makes the opportunity available and if you are interested, hey, if anybody asks me, I would suggest taking advantage of the opportunity.  And as for intruding upon their studies or environment, I would guess that you are probably not the first and probably won't be the last undergraduate, or woman who would be taking courses there.  I would imagine that you would be a blessing to them to have in class and that they will be a blessing to you as well!  I truly think that you will do great things academically and great things in life after college and graduate school!  I pray for God's blessings upon you and encourage you in your academic pursuits!  As the popular saying goes, respectfully submitted, "You GO GIRL!!!" That, is, I hope that you will go ahead and try the seminary courses! :)


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 Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 09:40 am

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Kayla wrote: I want to learn it all. :shock:
And what makes you think you need to stop?  I completed my Master's program at 55 years old, and I'm considering other courses to take.


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