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LauraN. Moderator

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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 07:52 pm |
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| Do you feel that people should post their personal problems on our board?
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Kim M. Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 07:58 pm |
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LauraN. wrote: Do you feel that people should post their personal problems on our board?
If someone is comfortable sharing here, then yes, I think it's fine. All personal problems are spiritual in nature. This IS a fallen world after all. Oftentimes, it's boards like this that can do the most good in a person's life because they can find sympathetic ears they might not find elsewhere. Not to mention prayer warriors!
Hey, I have an opinion for everything! 
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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 08:38 pm |
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| I wouldn't be interested in participating if they weren't. It is a family of believers, who are real to me. I identify with many of their problems, it helps me know I'm not alone with mine. I can go a lot of places for just questions and answers. The group here can't be found anyplace else, and their problems as well as successes are what life is made of. IMHO
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EMarshallBuckles Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 08:49 pm |
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| As long as somebody is truly looking for a Christian and Roman Catholic answer to a problem or concern and is not trying to take over the forums to make them something they were not intended to be (such as someone trying to make it into a sex discussion board when that is not what it was meant to be), I do not mind if anyone talks about anything. Even so, I think that some topics, other than prayer requests, such as sexual matters, for example, might be better addressed in depth in some other forum where the particular problem is the specialty or one of the specialties which that particular forum is best equipped to handle. If someone says, for example, "my husband came home drunk so I hit him on the head with a frying pan", I would assume that they, in mentioning that here, would be inquiring about whether or not the Catholic Church would approve of that and the theological implications of it. However, if they want to discuss their relationship with their husband, perhaps another forum dealing with marital issues from a Christian perspective would be better for them and they could be appropriately referred to such a forum.
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Kim M. Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 09:13 pm |
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EMarshallBuckles wrote: If someone says, for example, "my husband came home drunk so I hit him on the head with a frying pan", I would assume that they, in mentioning that here, would be inquiring about whether or not the Catholic Church would approve of that and the theological implications of it.
Marshall, you're a nut! You always crack me up!
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paulr Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 09:29 pm |
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Kim is quite right in saying that all personal problems are spiritual in nature.
If someone asks for help, then they should be helped!
After all, what would Jesus do?
Because we have a social, communal (i.e., in community) responsibility to help and exercise charity toward others as Christians in emulation of Jesus, we fail in that responsibility whenever we fail to help others when they ask for that help, and when we consciously choose to ignore an opportunity to practice the virtue of charity.
We often tend to forget that sins of omission are as serious in God’s eyes as sins of commission. Remember what Jesus is going to say to the “goats”? (Matthew 25:41-46)
As such, because society, especially Catholic society, has turned a blind eye for so many years when it came to the matter of failing to speak up about social ills, e.g., the behavior of homosexual priests, we are paying the price now for our silence.
This holds true for abortion, pornography, gay marriage, adultery and all of the other disordered maladies that so denigrate and corrupt the human person, (including our own children), made in the image and likeness of God.
Our Lord can look at many of us at our judgment and ask: “Why were you silent when I was being aborted in the womb? Why were you silent when I was being abused? Why were you silent when homosexuality was being taught in your children’s schools? Why were you silent when your best friends were living together out of wedlock?”
We can see that the line of such questioning is potentially endless.
And God would be right in confronting us with the truth of these difficult and painful questions.
As Catholics, we are required to habitually practice the Spiritual and Corporal works of Mercy, and our performing these acts is not limited to just close friends and family or to the people we like.
Spiritual Works of Mercy
• Admonish the sinner
• Instruct the ignorant
• Counsel the doubtful
• Comfort the sorrowful
• Bear wrongs patiently
• Forgive offenses
• Pray for the living and the dead
Corporal Works of Mercy
• Feed the hungry
• Give drink to the thirsty
• Clothe the naked
• Shelter the homeless
• Comfort the imprisoned
• Visit the sick
• Bury the dead
Is not the very purpose of this forum to “instruct the ignorant”, “counsel the doubtful”, “comfort the sorrowful” and “admonish the sinner”?
These are our duties to God and each other.
As many of you may know, I formed a small Catholic apostolate known as the Serenellians, for the purpose of ministering to people with sexual addictions. Yes, we are all aware that this is a very difficult, uncomfortable and oftentimes painful subject to discuss. Most people will do anything to avoid this topic. Yet, the reality is, as you read this, our whole society continues to be battered, assaulted, pillaged and utterly destroyed by the plague of pornography.
Pornography abrogates virtue, destroys marriages, families, lives and careers, but most importantly, it kills souls.
Look at the rotten and disgusting fruit born of Hugh Hefner’s Playboy Clubs of the 1950’s and 60’s. Look at where this “innocent fun” has led to in our time.
The worst thing about this situation today is our children and the youth of today think that these immoral, immodest and illicit behaviors are all normal.
We and they have lost the sense of sin.
If people had spoken up years earlier and worked harder to put an end to this evil early on, many suffering souls would not find themselves in the predicament, this quagmire of habitual sexual sin, in which they now wallow.
If someone asks for help, especially when it concerns the dangers and consequences of concupiscence, I feel compelled in all good conscience to try and offer help, regardless of what others may think, say or feel, and whether it be in the context of this forum or in another.
Paul Rasavage
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LauraN. Moderator

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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 09:37 pm |
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Kim M. wrote: EMarshallBuckles wrote: If someone says, for example, "my husband came home drunk so I hit him on the head with a frying pan", I would assume that they, in mentioning that here, would be inquiring about whether or not the Catholic Church would approve of that and the theological implications of it.
Marshall, you're a nut! You always crack me up!
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Hah hah....you're funny Kim. 
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LauraN. Moderator

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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 09:40 pm |
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| Our point, Paul, is that we direct these people straight to YOU, as you can help them the most. We can help by answering their questions, but ultimately, we can help the most by sending them to someone who can TRULY help them.
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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 09:45 pm |
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paulr wrote: Is not the very purpose of this forum to “instruct the ignorant”, “counsel the doubtful”, “comfort the sorrowful” and “admonish the sinner”?
This isn't going to be popular. How-some-ever!!
As a seeking Protestant trying to understand the "CATHOLIC" church, my concerns are with major doctrines, theology and polity. I'm not interested in the little three letter word that begins with s and ends with x. There are plenty of sites that deal with the broader scope of general over all Catholic and Christain living and Paul's would be one of them. I applaud yor efforts Paul.
It's fun to discuss general subjects in the fellowship hall, but I personally think they should all generally lead to the 3 major subjects I mentioned. That's what most of us Protestants seem to have the most difficulties with.
If I'm wrong, I'm sure I'll get the tomatoes. But that's O.K. I like mixed salad.
I say stick with the major subjects listed on the forum and not go chasing rabbits that may not be related. But's that's only my opinion.
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LauraN. Moderator

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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 09:55 pm |
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rbo4u2 wrote: paulr wrote: Is not the very purpose of this forum to “instruct the ignorant”, “counsel the doubtful”, “comfort the sorrowful” and “admonish the sinner”?
This isn't going to be popular. How-some-ever!!
As a seeking Protestant trying to understand the "CATHOLIC" church, my concerns are with major doctrines, theology and polity. I'm not interested in the little three letter word that begins with s and ends with x. There are plenty of sites that deal with the broader scope of general over all Catholic and Christain living and Paul's would be one of them. I applaud yor efforts Paul.
It's fun to discuss general subjects in the fellowship hall, but I personally think they should all generally lead to the 3 major subjects I mentioned. That's what most of us Protestants seem to have the most difficulties with.
If I'm wrong, I'm sure I'll get the tomatoes. But that's O.K. I like mixed salad.
I say stick with the major subjects listed on the forum and not go chasing rabbits that may not be related. But's that's only my opinion.
I love ya'll anyway.....
Rich
I applaud!!! 
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Kim M. Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 10:13 pm |
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rbo4u2 wrote: my concerns are with major doctrines, theology and polity.
Rich, I'm glad you think we should be polity to each other. So do I!  
I think he's right about the "s" word. That subject got us into huge trouble recently. The subject, IMO, would be better discussed outside of mixed company. If there was a private board only women or only men could be members of and discuss that subject, it would be better. Even technical talk on that subject can be troublesome. Not asking for CHNI to give us private boards, btw! Just saying that that is probably the safest way to discuss such a subject online (and even then you're having to trust people are who they say they are. Not worth the trouble).
I've got chores to finish and Laura has sucked me into these discussions today! Naughty Laura! 
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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 10:21 pm |
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Kim M. wrote: rbo4u2 wrote: my concerns are with major doctrines, theology and polity.
Rich, I'm glad you think we should be polity to each other. So do I!  
I think he's right about the "s" word. That subject got us into huge trouble recently. The subject, IMO, would be better discussed outside of mixed company. If there was a private board only women or only men could be members of and discuss that subject, it would be better. Even technical talk on that subject can be troublesome. Not asking for CHNI to give us private boards, btw! Just saying that that is probably the safest way to discuss such a subject online (and even then you're having to trust people are who they say they are. Not worth the trouble).
I've got chores to finish and Laura has sucked me into these discussions today! Naughty Laura! 
You know...I was thinking of doing a poll that asked people how often they visited our board per day.........
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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 10:24 pm |
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You know...I was thinking of doing a poll that asked people how often they visited our board per day.........
Too often! But I love it! 
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 12:09 am |
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LauraN. wrote: Do you feel that people should post their personal problems on our board?
I must protest, that's a rather personal question! 
Yes, but if this has been deemed a site that does not deal w/personal issues directly, when they post something like that you can direct them elsewhere as you said.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 02:00 am |
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I think that prudence must be used when discussing personal problems on the forum. I feel that being able to discuss personal issues here is an integral part of the forum, but I also think that certain subjects need to be approached very carefully. I mean to say, being able to discuss my family situation in my conversion (a personal problem) with other folks going/gone through the same thing is very important-- but at the same time, discussing what goes on in one's bedroom may not be that appropriate.
Ultimately, I think our best judgement needs to be used and if a matter is extremely personal, I feel that it should be either discussed privately with a member on the board or with a priest.
Obviously different people have different perspectives on exactly what is an "appropriate" personal problem and what is not. I think this is where the mods can come in and make judgement. And we ought to obediently accept what has been decided, knowing that y'all are doing your best to make fair judgements.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 02:28 am |
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I'm with Marsha. If the forum ceases to be aware of posters as persons, ceases to care about addressing the problems and wounds they present, ceases to offer support for the journey beyond cold information, that would be very sad indeed and the end of what has been a beautiful ministry here.
(I speak of the ministry of caring for persons.)Last edited on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 04:10 am by Intercessor
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 02:43 am |
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I think there is a big difference between fun banter and joking around, and actually digressing from the actual topic. You can joke about the topic itself, and have fun banter about it. It's different from taking away from the thread, and begin talking about something that may be related in a small way, but diverts completely from the topic.
The post that remains uppermost in my mind is the one about alcohol addiction. Several of the posts addressed this issue, but as the post lengthened, people began posting various alcoholic drinks. I thought that was inappropriate, especially in the way that the topic was originally posted. Do people with alcohol addictions really want to know how to make various alcoholic drinks? Will people who might have alcohol addictions appreciate the recipes for alcoholic drinks? This is what I'm trying to avoid. There is a big difference between fun banter about the topic you are are discussing, and diverting from the topic itself. Sure mixing alcoholic drinks has to do with the topic of alcohol, but it diverts greatly from the reason behind the original post.
Example: I wish to talk about praying to the saints. Somewhere along the line I talk about a funny incident that occurred because I had prayed to a particular saint. That seems to me completely with the original topic, which helps people understand about prayer. However, if I begin talking about the life of a particular saint, this kind of diverts from the actual question about prayer. That's when you can begin a new thread about saints, and more saint stories that pertain to saints.
Does this help you? Please let me know if you are understanding what I am trying to say.
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As you may have noted, I am always posting my personal problems. When I think I have exhausted the last of everyone's patience, I always receive responses of welcome and even appreciation for the struggling I do to remain faithful to the Lord, when my life is so distraught. I am one who has seemed to have lost "everything earthly" the moment I gave my life to Christ. Here is a place where people understand that sometimes, it happens that way, and my level of faith is not directly related to my level of earthly happiness.
I struggle so hard to handle the traumas of my life in a Christian manner. As they pile up, I struggle to knock down the wall I build to protect myself. The loving people of this forum help me to do that. And when I am so dissappointed in my own behavior, I receive encouragement that actual perfection is not as important as faithfulness in trying to be perfect.
I hope I am not causing any discomfort by posting my problems, but I am truly trying to do as my heavenly Father and my Savior will for me, and sometimes I don't know how it all fits in with the circumstances of my life and the "badness" I feel because of them.
And sometimes, I just need to "cry" and everyone here is so generous in their acceptance of my pain. And I even want to "handle" my pain in a way that pleases Christ, and my family here, always give me advice on how to do that.
Love, Laura
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Credo Catholic wrote: I wouldn't be interested in participating if they weren't. It is a family of believers, who are real to me. I identify with many of their problems, it helps me know I'm not alone with mine. I can go a lot of places for just questions and answers. The group here can't be found anyplace else, and their problems as well as successes are what life is made of. IMHO
ITA with this statement! It's what I was talking about in poll #1.
Personally, if I don't like a subject or a poster, I just won't read the thread. To me it is that simple to avoid things I don't like or have no interest in.
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Yes! We are all on a journey and our vocation, our job, our duty, our calling, is to help each other along the road. (Jesus taught this. )
I find that personal issues I have related to people in my parish can be the most troublesome for me because we have, sorry to say, soooo many, many gossips in our parish in a very small rural town that sharing with anyone in person in the parish regarding matters of faith and applying our faith to our personal problems, can really get all blown out of proportion and broadcast way too far. Its actually too bad. So, I use on line Catholic forums here and elsewhere to seek assistance at times.
I pray we can cultivate a safe environment here so that members who want a helping hand along the road, feel safe in asking for that hand. :-)
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Hi Laura,
I see you live near one of my favorite malls. I have been known to drive all the way down there just for a good Italian dinner!!! 
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Are you talking about South Coast Plaza and Maggiano's??? I am several long blocks away from them.
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