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EMarshallBuckles
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 02:37 am |
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I do various readings about various Christian persons in history - including the various Saints and my hero Pope John Paul II or "The Great" as I think of him. Anyway, recently, I was reading about the late Dr. Wallie Amos Criswell, the late long time Pastor of HUGE First Baptist Church of Dallas, Texas and former Southern Baptist President (the President of the Southern Baptist Convention is not a "Baptist Pope" nor does he necessarily speak for all Baptists - he just presides over the annual convention and has some appointive powers in the denominaiton which is not hierarchical, by the way, um, it's a "Baptist thing"). Anyway, during the early '70s, I learned, Dr. W.A. Criswell went to Rome and visited with Pope Paul VI. The good Pope received Dr. Criswell warmly and actually prayed for God's blessings upon him and upon Southern Baptists. Apparently Dr. Criswell was very pleased and spoke highly and warmly of Pope Paul VI. I am not sure if Baptist leaders will meet with Pope Benedict XVI when he comes over here, however, I wish that they would! Baptists could use another blessing! Hmmm, wonder if we could get the Pope to pray for the University of Tennessee athletic teams while he is over here?! 
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 03:54 am |
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EMarshallBuckles wrote: I am not sure if Baptist leaders will meet with Pope Benedict XVI when he comes over here, however, I wish that they would! Baptists could use another blessing!
Our Holy Father will participate in an Ecumenical Prayer Service and no doubt representatives of the Baptist faiths will be represented.
Hmmm, wonder if we could get the Pope to pray for the University of Tennessee athletic teams while he is over here?!
You need to pray to St. Jude. He's the patron of hopeless cases.
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Kim M.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 04:03 am |
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CajunRick wrote: You need to pray to St. Jude. He's the patron of hopeless cases.
We're supposed to pick a saint we can relate to when entering the Catholic Church. Should he be mine?    
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 04:07 am |
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Kim M. wrote: CajunRick wrote: You need to pray to St. Jude. He's the patron of hopeless cases.
We're supposed to pick a saint we can relate to when entering the Catholic Church. Should he be mine?
There are actually four patrons of impossible cases. You can read about them here.
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Intercessor
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 04:12 am |
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Kim M. wrote:
We're supposed to pick a saint we can relate to when entering the Catholic Church. Should he be mine?
Clearly, Kim must choose a saint who was feisty and sassy!
Suggestions, Rick?
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Kim M.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 04:16 am |
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Intercessor wrote: Clearly, Kim must choose a saint who was feisty and sassy!
Suggestions, Rick?
lol Oh dear! 
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 04:23 am |
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Do not despair prematurely, dear GRITS,
It may be that St. Teresa of Avila would fit this description. 
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 12:37 pm |
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Intercessor wrote: Kim M. wrote:
We're supposed to pick a saint we can relate to when entering the Catholic Church. Should he be mine?
Clearly, Kim must choose a saint who was feisty and sassy!
Suggestions, Rick?
Blessed Teresa of Calcutta comes to mind. Fussing at presidents and kings, chastising the United Nations and a joint session of Congress, and telling the whole world where to get off while accepting the Nobel Peace Prize sounds pretty sassy and feisty to me.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 03:34 pm |
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She was definately fiesty- the " bored foreign wives contingency" would get in their minds that they wanted to help her- nothing too messy or that mind you and boy could she open their eyes in a manner of speaking . The couple of times that she talked with me though she was kind. She had no patience for the squeamish
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 06:46 pm |
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kimdyuma wrote: She was definately fiesty- the " bored foreign wives contingency" would get in their minds that they wanted to help her- nothing too messy or that mind you and boy could she open their eyes in a manner of speaking. The couple of times that she talked with me though she was kind. She had no patience for the squeamish
There you go, Becky. Ask Kim (kimyduma, that is) about Mother Teresa. She actually worked with her and knew her first-hand.
Kim, have you considered adding your testimony to the canonization cause? Frankly I think all that's left is a confirmed miracle and based on the number under investigation, it shouldn't be long before one is confirmed, but it couldn't hurt to offer.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 07:02 pm |
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CajunRick wrote: Ask Kim (kimyduma, that is) about Mother Teresa. She actually worked with her and knew her first-hand.
Wow! How cool is that!! 
Thanks for the saint assistance everyone! Kind of like directory assistance! 
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 09:08 pm |
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Kim, have you considered adding your testimony to the canonization cause? Frankly I think all that's left is a confirmed miracle and based on the number under investigation, it shouldn't be long before one is confirmed, but it couldn't hurt to offer
I never thought that thye would be interested in listening to someone like me- is there a sitre or an adrees that I write to?
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 01:05 am |
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kimdyuma wrote: I never thought that thye would be interested in listening to someone like me- is there a sitre or an adrees that I write to?
The official web site is located at http://www.motherteresacause.info/index.htm and they are seeking stories, memories, and recollections. There's a link to click, and a snail-mail address at the bottom of the page.
In such cases, "popular devotion" plays a large part. If a person does not have a reputation for holiness, their cause will not be considered or will be derailed. Impressions and opinions of those in personal contact with a saint are extremely important, because they are the most likely to have caught them in an unguarded moment which might indicate they are not an appropriate candidate.
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 02:09 am |
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CajunRick wrote:
There you go, Becky. Ask Kim (kimyduma, that is) about Mother Teresa. She actually worked with her and knew her first-hand.
Hey, Kim! What a blessed opportunity you had!
Tell us about it, maybe in a new thread. (not sure if it's necessary to switch threads)
No doubt others would also enjoy the chance to ask you some
questions.
What were your impressions of her?
Did you have observations that ran counter to the commonly presented
portrayals?
What did you learn from her?
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 04:17 am |
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Our kimdyuma actually KNEW Mother Teresa?!?! WOW!!  Yes, please tell us about her!!
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 03:57 pm |
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Here cut and pasted from an earlier thread is my story- most of our encounters were brief and mundane- had I known that she would one day be on the path to formal Sainthood maybe I would have tried to have more philosophical conversations- but probably not I was so young The post was triggered by someone mentioning that Mother T. had the wall to wall carpet removed and didn't have hot water in on of her hospices. She looked like a little white and blue hurricane with other sisters almost running along behind her. For such a tiny person boy could she move! The "foreign wife" contingent used to come down to her orphanage ( the homes for the dying were a little too much for them) and pass out toys, candy clothes- whatever. I think they expected more accolades from her but that kind of charity was not high in her mind she much preferred the more down to earth rollup your sleeves and get in there kind of volunteers- they would get a little miffed when she was less than effusive to them!
I met Mother Teresa in 1974. I worked in Bangladesh, India and Somalia during school breaks from 74 to 78 and then full time until 1984. I met her at an orphanages run by her order. She was a little tornado of a woman. Rick asked me sometime ago to write about meeting her but it started so much thinking it was hard to organize my thoughts. It was the first year I worked overseas and I was almost 18. I was given all the not so nice jobs by the volunteers I worked with and was struggling- one of my jobs was to pass out clean linens, basins of bath water and meals to patients in a leprosy ward 3 days a week ( Not Mother T's). I was terrified that one of them would lose a finger or something ( I had been told lots of stories by the volunteers in hindsight there was quite a bit of " scare factor" in them vs the truth), the smell of gangrenous tissue was pretty awful ( not to mention the sight) and Every day I prayed- don't let me flip out here" anyhow one of my other little jobs was to go down to her orphanage a couple of times a week to visit a child that my agency was placing for adoption. The trip down was harrowing by rickshaw into Old Dhaka, the middle of conservative Islam- I got hassled a lot for not being in purdah. Anyhow this one time she stopped and we talked a little and she told me " the pretty ones are easy- and there will always be be to take care of them it is the others who need love too") Those words must have sunk in because as I matured I found my self fighting for the kids that were special needs, overseas, those kids were pretty much ignored, didn't receive therapy services or anything more that the most basic attention. As for the carpet story In all my years over there I never saw wall to wall carpet before I moved to the states. Even the richest people had tile, or terrazzo flooring and the lesser had coloured cement floors or dirt. The orphanages that I worked in had tile, cement and one that had been an old house had terrazzo. If you didn't wear a belt or sandals in a few days then you would have to wipe this fine green mildew off of them- it makes me shudder to even think of carpet! As for the cold water- quite frankly I never lived ANYWHERE that had hot water- we were lucky to have running water sometimes. Only the rich and foreigners had hot water. Even electricity wasn't always guaranteed. Mother T. could be very sharp tongued, never to me in the times that I talked to her ( Always at a run and pretty brief) but I did over hear some pretty sharp answers to others. That doesn;t make her any less of a Saint it just makes her human which every Saint was. Also from my work as a volunteer in third world countries I have to tell you the most dedicated people were also the most difficult to deal with- they had a calling that the world better take note of or they had no use for them. People like this had no time for "frivolous" or petty concerns that the rest of us do- they are driven. That is why the achieve so much in their lifetimes. Yes Mother T. lived a life of poverty but I think that if tomorrow every one had enough love, food and care and all their needs were met then she would have had a different outlook on life. Did she do with out because she liked to- no she did with out because she couldn't live with luxuries ( in the 3rd world some of our basics ARE luxuries) when so many others lacked even basics. I can't imagine her taking hot water away from her patients if they had it, I can imagine her taking it away from herself and the people who worked with her- volunteer, nuns or whatever if she deemed that the money could be better spent on their patients in a heartbeat.
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 06:51 pm |
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Thanks, Kim. I enjoyed the details and appreciated the insights.
Did your parents support (approve of) your initial trips?Last edited on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 06:54 pm by Intercessor
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 07:15 pm |
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Kim, can you give us a link to the original thread so follow-up questions can be posted there? I tried searching for it but got an error, and I'm at work so I don't have time to go looking for it right now.
Thanks. Let's stay on-topic, guys, and keep follow-ups in the right thread.
(Sorry, I'm not moderating, just suggesting.)
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 08:05 pm |
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Hey Rick I did think about it but couldn't figure it out I will gladly do it if you tell me how or you are more than welcome to post the link for dummies like me
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 08:07 pm |
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Thanks, Kim. I enjoyed the details and appreciated the insights. Did your parents support (approve of) your initial trips?
Yes they did
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 08:15 pm |
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kimdyuma wrote: Hey Rick I did think about it but couldn't figure it out I will gladly do it if you tell me how or you are more than welcome to post the link for dummies like me
Find the thread and copy the link from the address bar (highlight it and press Ctrl-C), then paste (Ctrl-V) into a message. Send it to me as a PM if you like, or just post it in the thread. If it needs to be fixed, I'll take care of it.
Or else just post a new message in that same thread. That will "surface" it on the Recent list.
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