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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 03:28 am |
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To any inquirers and new converts who had a tough time dealing with Mother's Day today, I extend my love and sympathy.
May the Lord sustain you and may our Blessed Mother comfort you.
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 04:14 pm |
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Thank you. I got away from Mother's Day, leaving two dozen peach colored roses.
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 05:03 pm |
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I got a card from each of my lot along with a coupon for a massage from DD and flowers from DS- Saturday we were talking and I said" well that is because tomorrow is mother's day"- DS looked at me and said "oh no- you are so much better about reminding us about father's day than Dad is about Mother's day" As for Mother's day itself- I was reminded at about noon that there was a special on that they wanted to see so could I be sure to have dinner on the table early ( that from hubby) aren't they lucky that I love them   Last edited on Mon May 12th, 2008 05:04 pm by sewnsew
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 05:32 pm |
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To any inquirers and new converts who had a tough time dealing with Mother's Day today, I extend my love and sympathy.
May the Lord sustain you and may our Blessed Mother comfort you.
Becky
When mother's day comes, I pay more attention to my wife. Since we are childless, it's hard for her to sit through the service when roses are being handed out to the oldest mom, the youngest, the single moms and honor given to all moms in general. So when they have all moms stand I just put my arm around her and whisper, remember, you're the mom of our cats. You may find that odd, but she just smiles and snuggles closer.
Our pastor had his mom speak for 10 minutes or so then he gave a rather soft sermon on mothers. When I led the seniors over 50's class after the 8:00 service, I reminded them that it was also Pentecost Sunday (which the pastor conveniently never mentioned) and that the world's greatest mom was present when the Holy Spirit fell upon the apostles. I then gave 2 minute overview of how our Lord's mom was present in all the major events of Jesus' life and that we should emulate her. I'll sneak in a good word for our holy "mom" anytime I can...even to a bunch of Presbyterians.
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 07:35 pm |
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Ever notice how so often at Mass, when Father's Day comes it is either not mentioned at all, or just briefly (whereas at my parish Mother's Day is always acknowledged by the priest)? I think this is a commentary on our society. Sure, everyone loves moms (it's like apple pie and baseball, with no end of sentimentality). I'm no different, and I just posted a poem to my wife that shows my appreciation for her as the mother to my children.
But hey, dads are important, too, and that is how God designed the family. God even revealed Himself as a Father, so it seems like, at least in church (if not in the larger society), we ought to give dads their due too.
Or is this because of a certain "anti-male" feminist strain that has taken hold? Or does it mean dads are messing up royally?
I suspect the reasons are all of the above. But it does strike me every year that this is the case; not just because it's "my" day, but because of the lopsidedness of the adulation for mothers and the "ho-hum" approach to Father's Day as a time to buy garden tools or a tie but not much else.
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Ali
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 07:49 pm |
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I love how our priest tied it in w/Pentecost Sunday and w/Mary being there and being the Mother of the whole church.
Our parish doesn't hand out anything for Mom's, though. I'm anxious to see if Father's Day is mentioned.
And interesting thought about Father's Day, Dave. Just watch TV, and you'll see most Dad's portrayed as clueless lumps not really adding anything of value to the family, just there to pull jokes on or to make fun of. Cowering from their wife, afaid to take the family lead. Oh, my, that was a cynical comment. Where did that come from? 
FTR, I shoveled crap yesterday. LOL While dh and I were emptying his truck bed of manure onto our garden he wished me a happy Mother's Day. Awww, what a romantic. I knew he was a catch!
Obviously, we don't make a big deal out of. My stepson was the only one who even bought me a card, lol.
And Father's Day is like any other Sunday for Dad around here. Us doing stuff for him on his one day a week off and just all of being and doing things together.  We tend to not get hung up on any particular "hallmark" holidays.
That's my two cents.
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 07:55 pm |
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FTR, I shoveled crap yesterday. LOL While dh and I were emptying his truck bed of manure onto our garden . . .
Better to shovel it than to dish it out (we apologists receive a lot of the latter!  ).
Man, I'm glad I could work with fresh cypress wood chips when we were workin' on our garden on Saturday . . .
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 08:51 pm |
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Dave Armstrong wrote: Ever notice how so often at Mass, when Father's Day comes it is either not mentioned at all, or just briefly (whereas at my parish Mother's Day is always acknowledged by the priest)? I think this is a commentary on our society. Sure, everyone loves moms (it's like apple pie and baseball, with no end of sentimentality). I'm no different, and I just posted a poem to my wife that shows my appreciation for her as the mother to my children.
But hey, dads are important, too, and that is how God designed the family. God even revealed Himself as a Father, so it seems like, at least in church (if not in the larger society), we ought to give dads their due too.
Or is this because of a certain "anti-male" feminist strain that has taken hold? Or does it mean dads are messing up royally?
I suspect the reasons are all of the above. But it does strike me every year that this is the case; not just because it's "my" day, but because of the lopsidedness of the adulation for mothers and the "ho-hum" approach to Father's Day as a time to buy garden tools or a tie but not much else.
I suspect it has to do with the anti-male feminist strain which has broken up families. As children grow up in broken families and have less contact with dads, then fatherhood is diminished. In turn, when they grow up and marry, the lack of understanding of the necessity of fathers spills into that marriage and family. It's a vicious cycle, but we will never restore the family until we restore fatherhood to its rightfully respected and necessary place.
My parish does include fathers in the intentions on Father's Day and has a special blessing for them. Usually, the sermon is about fatherhood.
I think the intercessory prayers should include prayers for couples struggling with infertility, on Mother's Day and Father's Day. Infertility is very painful, and those who long for children (or more children) can struggle especially on these holidays.
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 11:00 pm |
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Annie wrote:
Thank you. I got away from Mother's Day, leaving two dozen peach colored roses.
Sometimes that's the best way, Annie.
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 11:05 pm |
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I got a card from each of my lot along with a coupon for a massage from DD and flowers from DS- Saturday we were talking and I said" well that is because tomorrow is mother's day"- DS looked at me and said "oh no- you are so much better about reminding us about father's day than Dad is about Mother's day" As for Mother's day itself- I was reminded at about noon that there was a special on that they wanted to see so could I be sure to have dinner on the table early ( that from hubby) aren't they lucky that I love them
Sounds as if your children did pretty well, Kim.
About lunch-- if they won't take you out, maybe take-out food or a
Lean Cuisine for everybody would be in order.  Choose one of the beef selections for that Texas man. Why, maybe you should even give him TWO.
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 11:20 pm |
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rbo4u2 wrote:
When mother's day comes, I pay more attention to my wife. Since we are childless, it's hard for her to sit through the service when roses are being handed out to the oldest mom, the youngest, the single moms and honor given to all moms in general. So when they have all moms stand I just put my arm around her and whisper, remember, you're the mom of our cats. You may find that odd, but she just smiles and snuggles closer.
Our pastor had his mom speak for 10 minutes or so then he gave a rather soft sermon on mothers. When I led the seniors over 50's class after the 8:00 service, I reminded them that it was also Pentecost Sunday (which the pastor conveniently never mentioned) and that the world's greatest mom was present when the Holy Spirit fell upon the apostles. I then gave 2 minute overview of how our Lord's mom was present in all the major events of Jesus' life and that we should emulate her. I'll sneak in a good word for our holy "mom" anytime I can...even to a bunch of Presbyterians.
Rich
Rich, don't forget the prize for the mother who has the most children present with her in that particular service. My mother used that one to round up all her kids for years. None of us wanted to hear, "If YOU had been there, I would have had the most children present!" She was disappointed when her church stopped that sort of thing a few years ago, and there's been no more pressure for us to leave our own churches on Mother's Day to attend services at her church. 
Your sensitivity and attentiveness toward your wife is precious. She is blessed.
You know what? For all my familiarity with the New Testament stories, it never stuck with me (until I became Catholic) that the Blessed Mother was present with the disciples as they waited for the Holy Spirit. Now I love meditating on that scene.
I'm sure your lesson was terrific.
Becky
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 11:28 pm |
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Dave Armstrong wrote:
Ever notice how so often at Mass, when Father's Day comes it is either not mentioned at all, or just briefly (whereas at my parish Mother's Day is always acknowledged by the priest)? I think this is a commentary on our society. Sure, everyone loves moms (it's like apple pie and baseball, with no end of sentimentality). I'm no different, and I just posted a poem to my wife that shows my appreciation for her as the mother to my children.
But hey, dads are important, too, and that is how God designed the family. God even revealed Himself as a Father, so it seems like, at least in church (if not in the larger society), we ought to give dads their due too.
Or is this because of a certain "anti-male" feminist strain that has taken hold? Or does it mean dads are messing up royally?
I suspect the reasons are all of the above. But it does strike me every year that this is the case; not just because it's "my" day, but because of the lopsidedness of the adulation for mothers and the "ho-hum" approach to Father's Day as a time to buy garden tools or a tie but not much else.
Dave, you are right.
Throughout my Protestant years there were sermons on both Mother's Day and Father's Day. The sermons for Mother's Day assumed that all mothers were devout Christians, attentive to their responsibilities and diligent in teaching their children the faith. Father's Day sermons, on the other hand, had quite a bit of "thunder" in them. Dads were given a list of things they ought to be doing and warned about the dangers of poor performance. Probably they should have a separate room with a homily for fathers who are already doing a marvelous job.
Becky
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 11:33 pm |
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True Image wrote:
I think the intercessory prayers should include prayers for couples struggling with infertility, on Mother's Day and Father's Day. Infertility is very painful, and those who long for children (or more children) can struggle especially on these holidays.
Anne
Anne, we could also consider intercessory prayers for those who had an abortion and now suffer the consequences and for those who have no children but who have birthed and nurtured spiritual children.
Last year I gave a Father's Day card to all the priests I knew at that time. They were deeply appreciative. Several took the time to thank me later and mentioned that it was the only Father's Day card they had received.
Becky
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 11:40 pm |
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I love how our priest tied it in w/Pentecost Sunday and w/Mary being there and being the Mother of the whole church.
Our parish doesn't hand out anything for Mom's, though. I'm anxious to see if Father's Day is mentioned.
And interesting thought about Father's Day, Dave. Just watch TV, and you'll see most Dad's portrayed as clueless lumps not really adding anything of value to the family, just there to pull jokes on or to make fun of. Cowering from their wife, afaid to take the family lead. Oh, my, that was a cynical comment. Where did that come from?
FTR, I shoveled crap yesterday. LOL While dh and I were emptying his truck bed of manure onto our garden he wished me a happy Mother's Day. Awww, what a romantic. I knew he was a catch!
Obviously, we don't make a big deal out of. My stepson was the only one who even bought me a card, lol.
And Father's Day is like any other Sunday for Dad around here. Us doing stuff for him on his one day a week off and just all of being and doing things together. We tend to not get hung up on any particular "hallmark" holidays.
That's my two cents.
Ali
Ali, sometimes I wish I could be a fly on the wall and watch you in action in your home. Except for burning dry palm leaves in the kitchen,  you seem to be so efficient and attentive to the needs of your husband and children in so many tender ways.
Rather than what you were actually doing this weekend, though, I think I'd prefer the image of your sitting in a director's chair, giving instructions to everyone else through a megaphone.
Becky
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FTR, I shoveled crap yesterday. LOL While dh and I were emptying his truck bed of manure onto our garden . . .
Better to shovel it than to dish it out (we apologists receive a lot of the latter! ).
Man, I'm glad I could work with fresh cypress wood chips when we were workin' on our garden on Saturday . . .
Dave, what did the Armstrongs plant this year?
Becky
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Becky, that was a real nice and classy offering of love to a much maligned and under-appreciated cadre of men who certainly deserve a lot more respect than they've received. The victims of the bums who abused them certainly deserved attention, help and compensation.
But there were, and remain, so many, many, 99 pct. of the remaining great men who toil under very trying circumstances, and they have by and large been left behind when it comes to remembering another group of victims.
To their everlasting credit, you never hear our priests speak of themselves as victims. They never will.
But we know they've been given a raw deal and a rough going over by a most insensitive and deliberately ignorant fourth estate that used their brothers sins as means of putting the food on their families tables, at the expense of the vast majority of good priests and other servants of the Lord, ordained, lay, or otherwise.
Proud to know you, Becky.
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Steven Barrett wrote:
To their everlasting credit, you never hear our priests speak of themselves as victims. They never will.
But we know they've been given a raw deal and a rough going over by a most insensitive and deliberately ignorant fourth estate that used their brothers sins as means of putting the food on their families tables, at the expense of the vast majority of good priests and other servants of the Lord, ordained, lay, or otherwise.
Proud to know you, Becky.
Steven
Thanks, Steven!
Proud to know you as well! You were in my thoughts several times during the last month as I remembered your advice to "love the hell out of" confused and hurting loved ones.
Grace and peace,
Becky
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Intercessor wrote: Ali wrote:
I love how our priest tied it in w/Pentecost Sunday and w/Mary being there and being the Mother of the whole church.
Our parish doesn't hand out anything for Mom's, though. I'm anxious to see if Father's Day is mentioned.
And interesting thought about Father's Day, Dave. Just watch TV, and you'll see most Dad's portrayed as clueless lumps not really adding anything of value to the family, just there to pull jokes on or to make fun of. Cowering from their wife, afaid to take the family lead. Oh, my, that was a cynical comment. Where did that come from?
FTR, I shoveled crap yesterday. LOL While dh and I were emptying his truck bed of manure onto our garden he wished me a happy Mother's Day. Awww, what a romantic. I knew he was a catch!
Obviously, we don't make a big deal out of. My stepson was the only one who even bought me a card, lol.
And Father's Day is like any other Sunday for Dad around here. Us doing stuff for him on his one day a week off and just all of being and doing things together. We tend to not get hung up on any particular "hallmark" holidays.
That's my two cents.
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Ali, sometimes I wish I could be a fly on the wall and watch you in action in your home. Except for burning dry palm leaves in the kitchen, you seem to be so efficient and attentive to the needs of your husband and children in so many tender ways.
Rather than what you were actually doing this weekend, though, I think I'd prefer the image of your sitting in a director's chair, giving instructions to everyone else through a megaphone.
Becky
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Oh,  You just had to bring that up, huh? ROFLOL, I have a feeling I'll never live that one down
Thank you, though, for your kind comments.
As for the director's chair? Yeah, I bet there are days when dh would agree that's what I do best 
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I'm gonna go start a new thread on this in Fellowship. And we can discuss gardening to our hearts content!
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