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Ali
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 12:09 pm |
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That's gonna hafta suffice. I can't formulate a coherent post about my frustration. Other than saying that it mostly offers, IMO, a false sense of security. Especially after seeing dd's school (I am *not* complaining about the school!).
UUUgggghhhhhh!!!!!
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Annie
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 02:09 pm |
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| Not only does it offer a false sense of security, the classes they make the children take inadvertently introduce way too much sexual awareness into their lives in my opinion.
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Ali
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 02:43 pm |
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Annie wrote: Not only does it offer a false sense of security, the classes they make the children take inadvertently introduce way too much sexual awareness into their lives in my opinion.
I'm not even talking sex ed -- nothing like that in our Sunday morning CCD program -- and I've already been open with dd and sex in appropriate ways. She's soon to be 12, I have no idea how they handle younger grades at her school. At this point it's not my problem, and I don't have time to get riled up over yet another thing.
I guess what really upsets me the most is that we as teachers want more parental involvement in the parish, but if you offer classes to parents with no childcare, who can attend? I know from my own experience what a hindrance that can be. So I offered my dd's service, and that of a friend or two, if needed. So if it worked out to have parents attend a class, childcare would be available. Uh, no. Can't do it. Cause you need two fingerprinted adults to supervise children.
Ugh! It's so legalistic and frustrating to have to deal with. Now my daughter is unable to help because she can't be fingerprinted and background checked. How do you intsill in these kids community service if you won't let them serve?!?! And she wants to do something soooo bad. My only other option is signing her up for a youth group with another denomination . Yeah, like I want to do that
And this is just one small thing. There's more, trust me. But I'm trying to be charitable and sit on my hands. Dh got an earful yesterday after I got home. Poor guy can listen to me anymore 
I am open to suggestions, BTW.
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Pani Rose
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 05:00 pm |
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I don't have any, and I understand your frustration. I just know they are serious about checks. IE, my husband is a deacon with the Ruthenian Archeparcy of Pittsburgh, he serves the Melkite Eparchy of Newton, and locally we are in the RC diocese of Birmingham. So guess what? He had to be cleared by all three diocese - the same checks; local, state, and federal - but they all did it. Anyone, no matter where, who works with children, must have clearence now. The program that has been set up by the Catholic Church was designed with the bishops by those who are/have worked with the FBI. They are not messing around.
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 05:18 pm |
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Ali, you mentioned having your daughter do service work with another denomination...I know the non-denominational church I was in was very strict about background checks. Even though I taught adults, and not children, I had to undergo a background check. I suspect not only Catholic but Protestants, too, are becoming more rigorous in criminal background checks.
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CajunRick
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 05:40 pm |
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In our diocese there is a program for teens who work with younger kids. It concentrates on what is appropriate touching and what isn't and that kind of thing. We also have sessions for younger kids all the way to kindergarten. I know the original program "mandated" by our diocese for presentation to the kids was so explicit a lot of the adults were embarrassed by it, and the DRE's in the diocese led a "revolt" and refused to use it. Then they found out it was picked from a list somewhere and no one in the diocese had actually watched it. When they did, it was discarded.
The intentions are good, but sometimes in their zeal to protect kids they do go too far. I've been warned a few times because I won't stop hugging young girls, but that's OK. Some of these kids don't get hugs from men anywhere else. And I only hug the ones who want to be hugged ... they come to me. It's what Jesus would do. And if one day I get in trouble for it, so be it.
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Annie
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 06:11 pm |
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| Rick, I like your attitude about this. I refused to have anything to do with children's programs at my old parish, the small town gossip mill (run by the priest, of all people) was just so strong. But I have no reservations about my new parish. whew.
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CajunRick
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 01:02 am |
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Annie wrote: Rick, I like your attitude about this. I refused to have anything to do with children's programs at my old parish, the small town gossip mill (run by the priest, of all people) was just so strong. But I have no reservations about my new parish. whewa.
The key to me is that I know I'm not doing anything wrong. I have been fingerprinted and investigated by the Girl Scouts and the Church, and they can do it every year if they want. I believe they've checked me with our local parish (county) police in two parishes and with the Louisiana State Police. It's not a problem because I don't have a record.
I don't act any differently in public. I do get a few raised eyebrows from time to time, but never from the kids and never from their parents. I hugged most of them when they were kids, too.
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