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sewnsew
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| Location: | Arizona USA |
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| First Name: | Kim | | Gender: | Female | | Faith History: | cradle Anglican, Episcopal /Catholic-04/07/07 |
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 05:26 pm |
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| On Saturday's I meet with my former Episcopal friends and we make prayer quilts- the mission is non denom. and the group welcomes anyone who believes in prayer and wants to sew. We generally try to keep it generic prayer but sometimes of course it slips esp. as most of them are Episcopal. Anyhow when I first became Catholic things got touchy but simmered down- mainly because the church itself split with some becoming Anglican with a Bishop out of Africa, they have been less tolerant of my conversion and indeed opened their own prayer quilt ministry out of their new church. One of the Episcopal crew asked me how to pray the rosary- I gave her one that had come in the mail and also gave her one of the free cd's that also came in the mail. She thanked me and said you know even though I am not Catholic this helps me. getting to the real story here, the recent events in California have upset their applecart again- Their Bishop has written to all his parishes to let them know that HE is behind same sex marriages and expects his parishes to be too. So they are in an uproar and don't know what to do. One of my friend who is Anglican now ( and willing to stay friends in spite of my foolish choice) said she pitied the Priest in the Episcopal church( some we know) who are too old to chuck everything and leave their pensions and medical benefits and too young to just say I can start again- I told her that their was a point when you had to stand your conscience whatever the cost- then she went on to tell me that the Epis. Presiding Bishop KJS is threatening to sue any Anglican church who uses the book of common prayer which was published in 1979, it is copyrighted. However the old prayerbook published in 1928 is not so ANYONE can use it. I said frankly that it isn't worth going to court over- if the old 1928 is free to use then go back to it for heaven's sake. We then talked about the fact that the Anglican world wide communion seems destined to break up.She then sad "what we need is an authority figure to say this IS the DOCTRINE and that is final." I said nothing and she said "like the Pope, but without the being the pope" my answer was "okay then but WHO chooses the authority figure?" We then went on to talk about the Amber or whatever the girls name is who converted so that her fiancé could keep his 11 position in line to the throne- she didn't understand why that was an issue ( I find that in my small town anything out of the States is not followed at all) I said well it is British law that Catholics can;t hold certain positions or marry in to the royal family but it looks like other faiths can. Her immediate reply was "well we are just as Catholic as the Romans" I only shrugged and said "well Anglicans" in the commonwealth countries don't think so" I am so glad to be home and hope that my family will continue to journey home. My son is settling nicely, my daughter is still struggling with loyalties to friends at both her old churches.
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sewnsew
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 06:20 pm |
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Further more I am not sure why people who in general are scornful and or dismissive of the monarchy can take Henry V111 as their hero for saving them from Rome?- In all my years of Anglicanism I tried to brush him under the carpet because it was too hard to explain the double standard in the church I grew up( as opposed to the current state of affairs) divorce was bad and yet it was the cause of the whole split, however they would not in the past marry divorcees- they do now.( contraception wasn't an issue due to my youth).
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 06:29 pm |
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I think the Showtime series The Tudors will go a long way to helping Anglicans/Episcopalians learn the real reason the Church of England broke away from the Catholic Church. At least I hope so.
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sewnsew
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 06:36 pm |
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Steven Barrett
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| Location: | Hadley, Massachusetts USA |
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| First Name: | Steven | | Gender: | Male | | Faith History: | Catholic, Episcopal communicant, Baptist, Catholic |
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Posted: Thu May 29th, 2008 01:29 am |
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Are you guys trying to imply that the break wasn't purely theological. Oh, I can't stand it! 
Well, I guess that leaves nothing less than pure lust for power, or using power to justify good ol'fashioned pure lust, and of course simply trashing one of the Ten Commandments dealing with outright thef of "thy neighbor's property" -- after coveting it -- not to mention a few other guys' wives, et al. Maybe theology did have something to do with it. Anti-theology. 
And to think, these were the genteel, establishment protestant "reformers." 
Now I'm totally disillusioned with life, oh my ... 
But maybe I shouldn't give up all hope ... who knows, perhaps gene boy's boyfriend might just "wake up" and leave the most offending "bish" in recent historical memory of sad reports, all by his lonesome, as either the blushed bride or groom or who knows. And to think the Church of the Tudors will finally sink on the "shoulders" of that small man from New Hampshire. Perhaps it's no small coincidence that the Old Man of the Mountain, long a symbol of Yankee granite-like steadfastness in morals and character came a crumbling down not long after gene boy's "consecration." Barney Rubble, meet Gene Boy.
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James Michael Curley to a young Thomas “Tip” O’Neill -- “Son, it’s nice to be important, but it’s more important to be nice.”
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