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Gloria Mundi
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 02:02 pm |
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Seventh-Day Adventists have suggested that title Vicarius Filii Dei, stands for 666.
What is their basis for concocting such a bizarre claim ?
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David W. Emery
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 02:07 pm |
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None, Gloria. It was made up by the a member of the SDA to represent the pope. In fact, the pope has never been in real life referred to by such a title.
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Robert
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 03:02 pm |
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In Roman numerals the name amounts to 666?
Here is the made up formula they use:
VICARIUS: V = 5, I = 1, C = 100, I + 1, U (or V) = 5
FILII: I = 1, L = 50, I = 1, I = 1;
DEI: D = 500, I = 1; total 666.
Notice that there is no equivalent Roman numeral for the letters A, E, F, R, and S.
Its more than silly to first make up a title, and than try to make it mean something that it can’t.
Check out this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicarius_Filii_Dei
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lifetone
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 01:56 pm |
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LOL. I'm sorry but that's funny. I felt kind of bad because I was going to meet a friend at the Seventh Day Adventist church where they give clothes to people in need, but didn't make it after the job interview yesterday due to being pretty tired. Then she told me they didn't do it anyway so I was like good thing I didn't drive over! I'm going to visit her home church on Sunday though to make up for it. I'll pray for them more. I didn't know they were one of "those" Pope is the Antichrist groups. Good to bear in mind.  Be sure to make the Sign of the Cross at least once at a visible moment. Just kidding. Maybe.. ;-)
Thanks for sharing the interesting world of things people say to bash the Catholic Church. I'm finding it intriguing the weirdness that goes on.
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BodRod
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 02:58 pm |
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Gloria Mundi wrote: Seventh-Day Adventists have suggested that title Vicarius Filii Dei, stands for 666. What is their basis for concocting such a bizarre claim ?
Those comments about the pope are included in a book by Ellen G. White entitled, "The Great Controversy." EGW claimed that God showed her different ideas about the present and the future in visions and she put what she had been shown by God in her books. However, over the past 40 years, her works have been examined and the examiners found that she copied much of what she wrote from other authors. According to a book by Walter Rea entitled, "The White Lie", EGW copied much of the aforementioned book from the book, "The History of Protestantism" by J. A. Wylie in 1876. If you do an Internet search on her, you will find that there are HUGE problems with her writings. The SDA Church still holds her in high regard and requires everyone who wants to join the SDA church, to orally acknowledge that she had the "Gift of Prophecy."
If you can find an early copy of her one of her books and compare it to a recently published copy of the same book, you will find that the church has re-written some of the more recent books to eradicate the errors. In my opinion, that is equal to re-writing God’s ideas that He had given to EGW. Some examples of her errors could include: 1. She wrote that some black tribes in Africa were made by whites having sex with monkeys. 2. She scolded Kellog (of Kellog breakfast foods fame) for buying a large warehouse instead of giving the money to the church to spread the Gospel (read support her and her books). The problem is, he had NOT purchased the warehouse. 3. If women wear their hair in tight buns on the back of their heads, they will have an increased sex drive.
As you can see from the information under my avatar; been there, done that!
Last edited on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 03:07 pm by BodRod
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Steven Barrett
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 03:11 pm |
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This is a lot more than a good LOL, Rollin' on the floor laugh session. This is stuff that makes the Russkie babe played by Cate Blanchett in the latest Indiana Jones movie look wonderfully sedate and sane, and something I never envisioned possible: works by any religious figure that'd make Tony the Tiger's corporate godfather/inventor/whatever look very sane.
She needed a poem of her own to suit her times, "Take up the crazy white woman's (mental) burden ..."
And love that link between "White Lies" and "History of Protestantism." Only on the island where my ancestors came from, the lies weren't always white and the results often led to rivers and buckets of reddish liquid flowing in the midst of such green emerald splendor.
This is real black helicopters and little green men on the front yard stuff. Wha next? No---I don't want to know, the sides of my mouth are already hurting from all the laughing and smiling on this gem.
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lifetone
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 03:33 pm |
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Speaking of questioning my decision to become Catholic, someone from work brought in leftover pie that he said was made by a woman at church. I visited his church once and all the women there wore these veils on their head in keeping with what Paul said. I'm so glad I don't belong to a religious group that ever did anything crazy like that!!
Still...Snickers pie. I dunno, what are you guys to offer to up that?
Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist??? Well, okay you still win. For now.
Thanks for the laughs. I needed that. I'll pray for our SDA brothers and sisters and for everyone.
I knew there was a reason why I don't wear my hair in a bun anymore...
Okay I'm done now. With the pie and this post.. But never with my beloved new Church family. God willing and I do believe that He is.
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Steven Barrett
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 08:40 pm |
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Nothing could be creepier looking than the Stepford Wives out at that Mormon ranch in Texas. That, my friend, is a Texas-sized case of being creepy!
They sure give a new dimension to what a buddy of mine said about future wives: "Look at the mother, add some 25 years on your bride and that's what she'll be like." Well, of course not quite and for all women, etc. On the other hand, those gals and their daughters in Texas, well ... on the other hand, my friend had a Texas-sized truth there!
All this 666, "vicarius filii dei" stuff (I'm not going to dignify this nutcake stuff with caps) goes to show how ingenuous some people can be at deminstrating how easily gullible they can also be. Pray for them. Some of these people even make Forrest Gump look like an intellectual.
Forrest wouldn't even buy into that SDA nonsense! 
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