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Valerie
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Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 10:04 pm |
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Hi. I am totally new to this, so be kind I was raised LDS (Mormon) and have been an on-again, off-again practitioner of that religion. I have had problems with several of its dogmas recently and have begun reading Catholic literature. I have always believed it's "either us or the Catholics". Since I have serious doubts about the Mormon faith, Catholicism has drawn me closer. Are there any LDS to Catholic converts out there? I'd like to hear from you. Thanx.
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Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 10:35 pm |
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Valerie wrote: Hi. I am totally new to this, so be kind I was raised LDS (Mormon) and have been an on-again, off-again practitioner of that religion. I have had problems with several of its dogmas recently and have begun reading Catholic literature. I have always believed it's "either us or the Catholics". Since I have serious doubts about the Mormon faith, Catholicism has drawn me closer. Are there any LDS to Catholic converts out there? I'd like to hear from you. Thanx.
I have never been Mormon, Valerie, but I know some of our members have. I'm looking forward to their response to you.
Meanwhile, you might want to review some of the literature produced by Catholic Answers that takes on Mormonism directly. You'll find a list here: http://www.catholic.com/library/noncatholic_groups.asp.
Catholics United for the Faith also have a Faith Fact on Mormonism and the Great Apostacy Theory available here: http://www.cuf.org/faithfacts/details_view.asp?ffID=110.
Please let us know if you have any specific questions, and we'll do our best to answer them for you.
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Valerie
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Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 11:02 pm |
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| Rick, you all are the greatest. Thanx.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20th, 2007 11:51 am |
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I was never a Mormon but I will be praying for you! It's great to have you here!
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susiedear
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Posted: Tue Mar 20th, 2007 03:28 pm |
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Dear Valerie, Sorry, I have never been Morman either, but I grew up in Western Colorado and had Mormon neighbors, so I know a bit about their practices and beliefs. It's great that you are exploring the Catholic Church! I wish you well, and I'll be praying for you too.
Elizabeth
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Valerie
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Posted: Tue Mar 20th, 2007 03:52 pm |
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Posted: Wed Mar 21st, 2007 11:48 pm |
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Valerie,
I've never been Mormon, but I've had really good friends who were. I've read the Book of Mormon, the D&C, and the Pearl of Great Price. I went to a Sunday service with my friends. (Don't they call that a communion service?) And I went to a Sunday School class with them one time. I must say it was different!
I don't profess to be an expert, but as I've said I have read all of their sacred texts. If I can help you in any way, please let me know!
God bless!
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Darlene
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Posted: Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 03:57 pm |
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Welcome Valerie,
I have never been Mormon either but I belonged to a Christian sect/cult and there are probably similar "social" issues, such as having to perform certain rituals or tasks openly in front of the congregation. I understand quite a bit about Jehovah's Witnesses, and while the beliefs taught in the Christian sect/cult I belonged to were very different from J W's, the social, stratified system within the two groups was very similar. Both the sect I belonged to and the J W's had to "witness" to so many people. And those who left were ostracized as "unfaithful." So, I'm sure if we compared notes, there might be similarities to the way Mormons do things and the way the structure was set up in the sect of which I was a part.
God Bless You on your journey of faith into Catholicism.
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BDisraeli
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Posted: Mon Mar 26th, 2007 02:13 am |
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I converted from Mormonism and received the Easter Sacraments in 2003. My family's involvement with Mormonism goes back seven generations to the earliest days of the church in the 1830s.
You can check out my posts and several others here:
http://chnetwork.org/forums/forum11/520.html
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Kristine
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Posted: Sun Apr 8th, 2007 02:30 am |
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Hello Valerie! well I'm new to this forum also so maybe we can struggle through this together!!  I do want you to know that I was raised Mormon all of my life and left 14 years ago. If I can help you I would be happy to answer any questions that I can.
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Valerie
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Posted: Sun Apr 8th, 2007 12:16 pm |
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Hi Kristen,
Thanx for the encouragement. I am doing a lot of reading right now. Jim Burnham sent me a booklet he published called Beginning Apologetics 2, How to Answer Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons. It is pretty helpful but all the info in it about the LDS is not correct. Wasn't there a group who came to America around the time of the Tower of Babel? It was Lehi who came latter? But Burnham focuses mainly on the alleged 'Great Apostasy', which is great. I think the LDS church either stands or falls on this issue. I have a book around here someplace called "the Book of Mormon, the cornerstone of our religion" but that is not correct. Joseph Smith is the cornerston of the Mormon religion. If you believe him then you have to believe in the LDS church; If you don't believe him, then you can't believe in the LDS church. I am at the latter stages: the LDS church is the Church of Joseph Smith and Latter day saints! I am still working thru Burnhams book and many others, too. Please keep in touch.
Valerie
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CajunRick
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Posted: Sun Apr 8th, 2007 01:40 pm |
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Valerie wrote: Wasn't there a group who came to America around the time of the Tower of Babel?
No. Assuming that the Tower of Babel is literal truth, the indigenous people of North America (native Americans) would have already been here, having crossed the land bridge across the Bering Strait between 20,000 and 30,000 B.C. The best evidence I've found for a date for the Tower of Babel is 5000-3500 B.C., which would have been thousands of years after the Bering Strait land bridge opened, but centuries before anyone had come up with a boat capable of trans-oceanic travel.
I'm not saying whether or not I accept the literal truth of the Tower of Babel story. That's a topic for another discussion. But if we approach the question from the assumption that it's true, it still disproves the Mormon hypothesis.
As for Lehi, there is no apparent evidence to back up his existence at all.
Wikipedia has an article on Archeology and the Book of Mormon that looks very good. The article includes the statement, "Both LDS and non-LDS scholars compare the state of Book of Mormon archaeology with Biblical archaeology, with both groups acknowledging that the number of locatable places in the Book of Mormon pales when compared to the number found in the Bible."
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Valerie
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Posted: Sun Apr 8th, 2007 02:52 pm |
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| Doesn't the Book of Mormon make the claim that a group of people came to the New World at the time of the Tower of Babel? I think it does somewhere. I'm not asking whether or not it is true, I am asking if the BoM does't make that claim.
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BDisraeli
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Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 01:22 am |
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Valerie wrote: Doesn't the Book of Mormon make the claim that a group of people came to the New World at the time of the Tower of Babel? I think it does somewhere. I'm not asking whether or not it is true, I am asking if the BoM does't make that claim.
Valerie,
Yes. This would be the story of the Jaredites in the Book of Ether. The Jaredites are claimed to have travelled to the New World between 3100 BC and 2200 BC. They were directed to cross the sea in barges after journeying through the wilderness of Moriancumer. Around 590 BC, the Jaredite civilisation which grew to 2 million people was destroyed by civil war just before the arrival of Lehi in the New World.
A very good book with some Book of Mormon exegesis is "Tale of Two Cities: Mormons vs. Catholics". This Catholic priest in the Diocese of Boise really does an excellent job of illustrating how the Book of Mormon cannot withstand serious scrutiny of intellectually rigourous scholarship in marked contrast to the Bible.
God Bless,
James
NOTE FROM RICK: Edited to shorten and fix link.
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Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 04:59 pm |
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| Is anyone familiar with former Mormon, Tatyana Orlova, and her conversion story? I see she will be on The Journey Home next week.
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Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 06:53 pm |
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There are conversion stories of former Mormons available in the CHN Conversion Stories archive, including a story by Eric Davis and Deacon Steve Seer. I don't think there's a posted story from Tatyana Orlova, but I'm looking forward to seeing her on The Journey Home on April 16, 2007.
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Posted: Thu Jun 7th, 2007 05:47 pm |
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Hi Valerie,
I was Mormon up until my divorce that was finally final in Nov 06. I have a long story so bear with me. I was placed in foster care at 16 and my FP were Mormon. That was May 95 in Nov 95, wanting to belong bc i was so lost I was baptized. In Feb of 96 I met my ex I was 17. I ended up moving out of my foster home on my 18th bday in Nov 96, still a senior in HS. My FP didn't like him, even though he had served a mission and everything. In July 97, just 1 month after HS graduation we were married in the DC temple. There were many warning signs, but everyone told me it was Satan trying to drive us apart. I was miserable for many years, emotionally and verbally abused. My ex was the second counselor in the branch pres, and I was very hurt by the fact that they supported him through the divorce since I was being mistreated, I realized how they were and left the church when i left him. I began dating someone 7 months after leaving, the divorce took almost 2 years to be final bc he was fighting for full custody so that they would be raised mormon. I was excommunicated from the church in July 06, happiest day of my life!! Now I am remarried to a raised Catholic man whom I love with all my heart, I have done alot of research on the Caholic church over the years even when I was married and so unhappy (that didn't go over to well when he found out either). I will be taking RCIA this fall and we plan to get married in the Church this fall also. Our little girl was baptized in march this year. I am very excited for whats to come in my life! Thanks for your patience!
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Posted: Thu Jun 7th, 2007 05:59 pm |
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hoddie3 wrote: Thanks for your patience!
Thank you for sharing your story with us, Holly. Compared to some others, yours was positively brief!
Welcome to the Coming Home Network and to the Catholic faith. We're glad to have you here with us. Please let us know if we can help you on your journey.
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Tina in Ashburn
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Posted: Thu Jun 7th, 2007 06:52 pm |
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Welcome all! The postings of the [ex-] Mormons are so interesting to me. I have nevrer been Mormon but I know a few. My son's best friend became Mormon. He didn't make it through his mission, getting disillusioned by the church's off-handed treatment when he got seriously ill in South America. He was so sick, he finally shipped himself home before the Mission was up. He left that church and now appears to believe in nothing.
But because of this, my son and I made some Mormon friends. Oh, also, my first cousin, raised without any religion whatsoever, became Mormon in his youth and lives in Utah - his kids and wife are wonderful. Anyway, I had many, many years of less than stellar income, and had great financial difficulties as a single parent. My son's Mormon friends came in and totally re-did my house, painting it. As a single parent in long-standing desperate financial straits, you can't imagine the gratitude I felt. I have tears in my eyes just remembering their kindness. It made such an impact on me. I will never forget it.
So when I hear the tales of devil worship and cult-stuff, that is supposedly Morman, I take it with a grain of salt. Many Mormons that I know are truly kind and wonderful people and have never bought into some of the darker stuff attributed to their beliefs..
I do welcome all of you and hope you will bring others with you to enjoy the Fullness of the Faith and the enjoyment of God's love.
"Charity covers a multitude of sins."
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Posted: Thu Jun 7th, 2007 07:10 pm |
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Tina,
I must agree with you about Mormons being such warm and wonderful people. Our Mormon friends were always very helpful and gracious. I never had to worry when they babysat for us. (Unlike my Baptist friend, who was great, but I was very suspicious of her Catholic husband.)
I think that is why so many Mormons find it hard to leave the church, because it is such a family-like environment. I have never been to a church where all the members are so willing to help one another as I have seen in my friends' Mormon church.
Although they show a great deal of Christian charity, they are still lacking fundamental truths about the Christian faith. I think one thing that is very off-putting for others is the Mormons' insistence on secret temple rituals. They are forbidden to speak of what goes on in the Temple--so imagination runs wild.
I think others would do very well to follow the examples set by Mormons' charity, tithing, and evangelization techniques. If only Catholics showed such zeal!
Beth
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Posted: Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 12:29 pm |
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Valerie wrote: Hi. I am totally new to this, so be kind I was raised LDS (Mormon) and have been an on-again, off-again practitioner of that religion. I have had problems with several of its dogmas recently and have begun reading Catholic literature. I have always believed it's "either us or the Catholics". Since I have serious doubts about the Mormon faith, Catholicism has drawn me closer. Are there any LDS to Catholic converts out there? I'd like to hear from you. Thanx.
Iwas a convert to Mormonism, though I am not yet beck in the RCC. Let me know if I can be helpful.
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