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BodRod
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 Posted: Sun Dec 3rd, 2006 07:01 am

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There is a local conspiracy to get me to "help out" more! I have been asked to consider being a "Lay Advocate". I have checked out the Internet re: the subject but I would like to hear from someone who is or has been involved in the service. Is anyone "out there" a "Lay Advocate"? If so, what are the duties? Is there much/any travel involved? Is it mostly a paperwork job or is there some counseling or advising involved? Does a Lay Advocate argue before a panel or is it all done by sending in paperwork? What else should I know? 

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 Posted: Sun Dec 3rd, 2006 10:17 am

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BodRod wrote: There is a local conspiracy to get me to "help out" more! I have been asked to consider being a "Lay Advocate". I have checked out the Internet re: the subject but I would like to hear from someone who is or has been involved in the service. Is anyone "out there" a "Lay Advocate"? If so, what are the duties? Is there much/any travel involved? Is it mostly a paperwork job or is there some counseling or advising involved? Does a Lay Advocate argue before a panel or is it all done by sending in paperwork? What else should I know? 

Thank you. :)


Sorry, I don't know what a "Lay Advocate" is.

Some ministries are universal within the Church; others are created locally in response to specific needs.  This sounds like the latter.  There is nothing wrong with locally created ministries, but you'll need someone familiar with the activity in your parish/diocese to explain what it's all about.  You may be able to find out more on your parish or diocesan web site.

Then you can come back and tell us!



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 Posted: Sun Dec 3rd, 2006 03:52 pm

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Hi Rick,

As I currently understand it, the Lay Advocate helps individuals, who have a marriage history which needs to be cleared up before the person can recieve the sacraments, get through the paperwork. In some cases, there may be a need for more than one annulment. The stated reason for asking me was because of my background in psychology. However, I have put my therapist license in suspension and I am too lazy (in my 70s) to take the continuing education units to revive the license. So, if there is legal counseling involved, I am out. On the other hand, if it involves only paper pushing, I can do that, since I was a civil service employee many years ago.  :)



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BodRod wrote: As I currently understand it, the Lay Advocate helps individuals, who have a marriage history which needs to be cleared up before the person can recieve the sacraments, get through the paperwork. In some cases, there may be a need for more than one annulment. The stated reason for asking me was because of my background in psychology. However, I have put my therapist license in suspension and I am too lazy (in my 70s) to take the continuing education units to revive the license. So, if there is legal counseling involved, I am out. On the other hand, if it involves only paper pushing, I can do that, since I was a civil service employee many years ago.  :)


OK, I understand now what you're talking about.  We call them Tribunal Advocates.  You'll be trained to help couples prepare their cases for a declaration of nullity.  Your background will help them in phrasing and placing their stories in context.  You won't be expected to counsel them, but rather to determine their state of mind at the time of the marriage, and whether there was effective evidence that a condition that became a problem.  For example, if the marriage broke up because of adultery, addiction, or abuse, you can help them detemine whether there was evidence of adulterous, addictive, or abusive behavior or tendencies prior to the wedding.

Your background will be a definite help but no, you will not be expected to do therapy, so whether or not your license is current is irrelevant.



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 Posted: Sun Dec 3rd, 2006 06:48 pm

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Thanks Rick. That is a big help and I appreciate it.

 



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