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kimdyuma
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Posted: Thu Feb 1st, 2007 07:57 pm |
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| My RCIA instructor has told me that because of my backgound and so forth that I will only need to make a profession of faith on Vigil Saturday- how is that different from what most RCIA candidates do?
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CajunRick
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Posted: Thu Feb 1st, 2007 09:29 pm |
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kimdyuma wrote: My RCIA instructor has told me that because of my backgound and so forth that I will only need to make a profession of faith on Vigil Saturday- how is that different from what most RCIA candidates do?
Those who have been previously baptized normally need only to make a profession of faith to join the Church. Complete initiation also requires Confirmation and Eucharist, so you will probably also receive those sacraments at the Easter Vigil, and you will need to go to confession before the Vigil, so it's really not "only" a profession of faith.
The difference between you, as a candidate for full communion, and a catechumen is that the catechumen must also be baptized
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Ken Follis
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Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 11:15 pm |
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Rick,
I have just about beaten this topic to death on the other thread but this thread seemed most appropiate. This is the last I will ask this to clear the confusion.
Tonight after Mass, I asked the deacon in charge if two folks in our Inquiry class needed to anticipate making their first Confession before making their Profession of Faith since they won't be going through RCIA. He said, "No! First their Profession then their Confession." Is this accurate?
Where can I get the rubrics on this? I need source material.
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CajunRick
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Posted: Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 12:05 am |
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Ken Follis wrote: Rick,
I have just about beaten this topic to death on the other thread but this thread seemed most appropiate. This is the last I will ask this to clear the confusion.
Tonight after Mass, I asked the deacon in charge if two folks in our Inquiry class needed to anticipate making their first Confession before making their Profession of Faith since they won't be going through RCIA. He said, "No! First their Profession then their Confession." Is this accurate?
Where can I get the rubrics on this? I need source material.
I think it's a matter of timing and definitions, not error.
A person who is previously baptized and in a state of grave sin must receive sacramental absolution before receiving sacraments. If the Profession of Faith is separated from the reception of the sacraments, confession may indeed come after. At the Easter Vigil, the Profession of Faith and the reception of the remaining Scraments of Initiation take place at the same ceremony. There is no opportunity to confess in between.
I suspect your follow-up will be that if the Profession of Faith can preceed absolution, then why can't someone in an illicit marriage make a Profession of Faith even though they are not in a position of seeking absolution, and I understand the confusion, but the difference is intent. A person who makes a Profession of Faith with the knowledge that he will confess is not in the same position as a person who would make a formal Profession of Faith with the full knowledge that he cannot accept and follow Church teaching and has no intention of taking the steps necessary to do so.
The commandment reads "Thou Shalt Not Kill" but Jews translate it as "Thou Shalt Not Murder". It's not the killing that makes it a sin, it is the intention to kill. People kill in accidents, in self-defense, and in war. The bible is full of examples of killing that is not sinful. The sin is in the deliberate intent to kill.
So the Church does not allow someone who is in an invalid marriage to make the formal declaration of belief in all that the Catholic Church teaches and believes, because we believe that they are then held to a higher standard. With that profession comes the obligation to follow what they have professed to believe. And to make that profession with no intention of honoring it would be an offense against the Body of Christ.
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