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Bail Conversion Story

By Jeffrey W. Bail



Methodist, Baptist, and The UCC

I grew up in Northeastern Ohio in a great family that honored God and taught values that were Christian based. My Dad was raised in the Methodist Church and my mom worshipped in the American Baptist Church. Involvement in church in our family was important but not central. During my high school years we attended the United Church of Christ regularly. I was very involved and in my junior year of high school I became the Youth group president. Being the youth group president, I was automatically a member on the main church council of which my parents both resided, serving in varying capacities.

Born Again, Salvation, and Converting to Christ

In my senior year in 1973, Copley High School had a drug assembly and invited a group called THE NEW MEN to make a musical presentation to our student body. The assembly consisted of their describing a life of drugs, music, and ultimately a life-changing event that occurred. This resulted in a major change of direction and purpose of life. They stated that they would be singing in area churches over the next week and invited any of the students to come hear more of their story. I was intrigued and went back to the UCC Associate Pastor and wanted to bring our youth group to hear them on that Sunday evening. I was mostly interested in the music as I was a guitar player and vocalist. About ten of us from the youth group went and heard the New Men’s story. The spoke of being born-again in Christ and at the conclusion of their performance invited anyone that was interested to pray the “sinner’s prayer” for salvation. Three of us (self-included) prayed that prayer. For me it was phenomenal, I felt so freed. Even though I was a “good” kid, the peace that accompanied this prayer was amazing. They told us that we had been “converted” to Christ. The next day while playing basketball with one of my best friends, I was going on and on about being “converted”. He asked what that meant and I said I didn’t really know except that I felt wonderfully close to God. The next week I met with my Associate Pastor and we talked at length about my conversion. He was very excited as I described a heartfelt interest in going into some type of ministry in the future. We became closer over the next year as he began to disciple me in the things of Christ.

Trying to be a Witness

One Sunday a year the UCC Church had “Youth Sunday” in which the Youth basically conducted the entire service. I had previously been involved in the music portion but this year the Associate Pastor ask me to “bring the sermon.” When we discussed a topic, he suggested I relay my “conversion” experience. I did, and the response wasn’t necessarily one I’d expected. Like most ministers I stood at the exit door of the church and shook the hands of the attendees at the conclusion of the service. I was encouraged, congratulated, and in some cases cautioned by the exiters. One seminary student, home for the holiday, told me to not be so naïve and literal in my beliefs toward the Bible. Looking back, I’m sure I received a lot of sympathetic nods and understanding because of my young zealous beliefs. I was surprised that others didn’t flock to the message and desire to receive Christ as I had. Later, my Associate Pastor said that he got some flack because of my “narrow minded” sermon. The Senior Pastor just tried to stand somewhere in the middle. So I met “opposition” for the first time and it left me a little hurt. By now I was a senior in high school and working at a local grocery store. The store offered double time pay on Sunday’s to work and I soon found myself substituting work for church. It was easy to not attend church, given my “narrow-mindedness.” Satan was very quick to offer a very profitable substitute. After all I was starting college in the fall and could use the money.

College Days

I started Akron University in the fall of 1973 studying accounting. Due to my musical background I joined the Men’s Glee Club at the University. At the end of my first year my singer friend from my high school ask it I would be interested in playing rhythm guitar for a gospel quartet. I was interested and began practicing with the group. My first weekend performance was at E.J. Thomas Hall, the performance hall on the campus of the University of Akron. It was a wonderful experience and I felt those “feelings” again that I felt in the Christian environment. I was excited about the future of singing for God. I eventually became the lead singer of this group called the CrossRoads. During my college year we toured about 30,000 miles per year on weekends. We owned a bus and over the course of the next 5 years we made 6 albums and toured most of the eastern US. Two of us graduated from the University of Akron in 1977 and we went
“Full-time” into this singing ministry.

During the years while still in college and while touring with The CrossRoads I moved my church membership to the Akron Baptist Temple, home of the World’s largest Sunday school in the previous decade. I found that the Baptists believed in something and everything was about the bible. Our church was independent (no hierarchy), fundamental, Pre-millennial (relates to end time prophecy), and avid King James Bible fanatics. We believed salvation by faith alone, the Bible as the only authority, and that we were the front line of God’s army. We traced our lineage all the way back to the time of Christ outside of any church denomination. The book The Trail of Blood, was a must-read for our denomination. We stood against liberalism, charisma tics, ritualism, and the social gospel. We didn’t even acknowledge Catholics as part of the Christian family. We didn’t smoke, drink, dance, go to movies, and some of us didn’t even own a TV. We went to church Wednesday night for Bible study, Sunday morning for Sunday school and then the Preaching service, and Sunday night for another preaching service. The “really Christian” among us also attended a visitation night weekly to knock on doors and evangelize those in our community. These were wonderful times. I wasn’t around the Akron Baptist Temple on the weekends due to our singing schedule but regular attended Wednesday night bible study and Tuesday night visitation.

The Local Church

After about a year of “full-time” in the ministry of the CrossRoads, I sensed a real burden to be involved with the local church (Akron Baptist Temple,ABT). So in the winter of 1978 I resigned from the CrossRoads. We were singing at a church in Valley City, Ohio the night we made the announcement that I would be leaving the group in May (as lead singer, it took awhile to work someone into that role). At the conclusion of the singing another Pastor of a church in Brunswick (where we sang on several occasions) was in the congregation. He asked me if I would consider coming to Brunswick and work part-time as his youth and music pastor. I told him I’d pray about it. I really wasn’t interested. May came and I left the group and got my first “real” job in my trained profession of accounting. I got very involved in my local church (ABT) and was truly content. A couple of times during the summer the Pastor of Grace
Baptist Church (GBC) called and asked if I was considering his proposition. I told him I’d make a decision in September. I still wasn’t that interested but with my delay, I bought some time. My girlfriend, Miriam, had just finished up her schooling at Tennessee Temple University in Chattanooga, TN. We made this decision a matter of prayer and finally felt led to go to Brunswick and serve in the Grace Baptist Church. The church in that time averaged about 175 on Sunday and was an exciting place to be serving God. We thoroughly enjoyed the youth and the music department was certainly a challenge. Miriam taught Sunday school and sang in the choir. We drove 4 times a week for a year from Akron to Brunswick during this time and finally Miriam and I were married in the summer of 1979. We moved to Brunswick and I still worked my full time job in accounting and “we” did part-time ministry for the church. I say “we” because while I got paid for the work, the church got a package deal in the both of us. Unfortunately this is the case in most fundamental churches and is the cause of much burnout. In 1981 the church asked me to go fulltime and become Associate Pastor due to the rapid growth and building programs. We were now averaging about 500-600 on Sunday.


Success

We were on the move. The Grace Baptist Church was making its mark on the city of Brunswick.

Over the next few years Miriam & I developed a youth department of 150 teens in three departments: junior high, senior high, & career college. We trained a youth staff consisting of 2-3 couples in each department. We had 11 youth in Christian college and we developed the youth ministry to function with or without our involvement.

The music department now consisted of a 70 voice adult choir, 25-piece orchestra, a ladies ensemble, 3 children’s choirs, a special music department consisting of 20 soloists. We produced a weekly cable show and did some live Radio. Personally I began to compose music and work on musical projects.

The church was now at it’s peak. On Sundays our attendance was well over 1000 and we had seen a high attendance of 1200. We had arrived. We were now the largest protestant congregation in our county.


Going through the Motions

Every January 1st I would feel a little empty and sought out a new “project” for the new year in hopes to chase the emptiness away. The first few years it was easy, developing the “youth staff” and administration or adding a new musical group. One year I began to disciple men one on one. Over a period of several years I discipled about 15 men, some I met once a week for 2 years straight. During these years one of my disciples and I joined the local Rotary Club and claimed these me as ours for God. We prayed weekly for their souls. While discipling was a great ministry for me, I found that the men were growing in emptiness with me. How could this be, we were reading our bible, memorizing scripture, and witnessing. But growing in emptiness. Jan 1, 1998 I decided my new year project would be to write and produce a full-length Christmas musical. It kept me busy all year. Every Friday I devoted to the creative piece of the work. “TIS THE REASON” was performed that Christmas by three churches and was quite successful. It was an emotional high and achievement that I didn’t think I could surpass. Jan 1 1999 proved to be rough time. I couldn’t come up with any new project to pacify my emptiness. How could I be empty after such success, being the largest church in the county, and leading so many people? I begged the Lord to remove the emptiness with something, but to no avail.

I was beginning to question whether we were the church Jesus promised to preserve in Matthew 16:18. If Grace Baptist was this church and the success was real, why was I so empty? Not only was I having trouble coping with my emptiness but also I was beginning to wrestle with some personal issues with the Pastor of Grace Baptist. We had been close friends now for many years but I saw some things that I didn’t like and all of a sudden I was struggling internally with his and my relationship. I was feeling like we were not doing ministry the way that Jesus would have it done. I began to go through the motions of ministry. We had this ministry down to a system, we could do this ministry and not really have to be in the right place with God. Nobody would ever see. Finally I began to share this my wife only to find, like most wives, she arrived here long before I did. Trying to ignore my plight, emptiness began to swallow me.


The Weird Guy at the Christian Bookstore

I never read much during my ministry days but one afternoon I stopped into our local Christian bookstore. I thought surely some Christian pastor must have experienced an emptiness due to success and written a book about it. I just had to find it. Dave was the manager on duty. Dave was “way to spiritual” for me. One day I heard him talk to a customer about “eating truth.” I just didn’t get that kind of talk. So I usually avoided Dave. This day Dave came and asked me what I was looking for and I told him something to read. He walked over to a rack, pulled down a book called “A Tale of Three Kings” and said, “this is a book about somebody who has trouble with the authority figure in their life.” I sensed the voice of God in his voice and my ear and took the book. I stayed up that night and finished it. It was the first food for my soul in a long time. The next day I was there looking for a new book suggestion by Dave. That year I read 67 books, I guess I was making up for lost time. Some days I would go in just to talk to Dave about what he and I were reading. I found out that Dave had a Masters degree from Baptist seminary and he was on a personal journey also. We became good friends and journeyed together certainly clueless as to our destination.

Father Fred

I was still discipling the men of the church and we were beginning to read some of the life changing books from my list. At last, hope for our emptiness. My friend and I were still praying for our Rotary Club men and I had become the unofficial pastor of the club, that is until Father Fred showed up. Father Fred, a priest from our local Catholic church, was this round man with a contagious personality that the men flocked around. He tried to be friendly to me but he was Catholic and I wasn’t going to call him “Father”. Weeks went by and Father Fred became the center of attention. I had to admit, there was something about him. One Thursday after a meeting I was back in my office praying for “my men” and the words “help me be like Father Fred” came out of my mouth. Wow, my spirit knew he had something in him that I wanted and needed. From that day forward I made internal peace with Father Fred and our relationship developed. One of the books in my list of 67 (#7) was Joshua, written by Father Girzone. I had to hide that book in my office, as I didn’t want my Pastor to see it. I was already suspect for being in Rotary and I mentioning Father Fred on occasion. I didn’t want to push the envelope. One morning I was feeling exceptionally open and began sharing with my Pastor my surprise prayer request about desiring a life that resembled Father Fred. He exploded and said that Father Fred wasn’t even a Christian because he believed in transubstantiation and that made him a cannibal. I immediately replied with Eph.2: 8,9 and said if we can’t do anything to get saved, we can’t do anything to unsave us. I have to admit I was surprised by his response and mostly by the anger. God was changing me and it was becoming clearer that I didn’t fit in like I used to.

What would Jesus Do?

The books were serving to change my thinking and in some cases I was radically changing my thoughts toward the church. I was convinced that Grace Baptist Church was not the church of the New Testament. I realized that we were so steeped in rules that we had become legalistic and according to the scriptures even “a little leaven” was not a healthy thing. If I could find a church that totally believed, preached, and taught the GRACE of God without a set of rules… that would surely be THE church. By this point in my life I was consumed with finding the church and wasn’t sleeping at night and had very little peace. I was praying that God would open the door and move me to another church or ministry.

One of the last of the 67 books was In His Steps by Charles Shelton. The book is about a Pastor and congregation who decide they won’t do anything in their lives until they first answer the question, “What would Jesus Do?” Long story short, the Pastor of the church has to resign, because the ministry of his church is keeping him from doing the ministry. There it was: the answer. In June of 2000, I walked into my pastor’s office and gave him a 1-month notice of resignation. We announced it to our congregation on that Sunday evening. It really was a bit awkward since I didn’t have a “why” we were leaving and there was no “where” I was going. We lived in a church parsonage and drove a church car. Our three children attended the local Baptist Christian school. Our whole life was church. Now our whole life was to change.

I give UP

Within 6 weeks of my last Sunday at Grace Baptist I was working full time as CFO(accounting) for The Salvation Army in Cleveland and part-time ministry at Church of The Open Door in Elyria, Ohio as the assistant worship leader, a church that was 4000 in size. This church was Baptist without the title or the legalism, at least it appeared that way. During my two years at Open Door and due to my involvement in the music ministry, the church was trying to get me to be full time staff. I couldn’t do this. I needed some room to work and have a ministry and for those two things to be separate. Part of my baggage I took from Grace Baptist was the idea that “I would never submit myself to another Pastor.” I loved the ministry but no man was going to control what I thought that was to be! Soon I found Open Door to be “the same” just a little less legalistic. I still didn’t find it to be the Church Christ promised in the New Testament. Facing too much pressure to be “full-time” I had an opportunity to get involved in another interim ministry and I took it! It too proved to be another of the same. I came back to Brunswick at the part time worship leader of The Brunswick Reform Church. This position I took because it was a job I could do. By this time in my Christian walk I was very independent and really didn’t have respect for any denomination and the authority of any pastor. Finally in 1997 I resigned my last paid position on a church staff. For the first time in our married life we had a choice of where to worship. I looked at my wife and ask her “where do you want to go to church?” We were impressed with a church that had taken over the “lead” in the largest church in the county race with Grace Baptist. The church was a four square church with a real charismatic emphasis. The pastor was probably the best Bible teacher I sat under and I had the utmost respect for him even though I nor my wife were not charisma tics. We knew we would never be. I led the choir for the Easter musical and did a few other things but the empty feeling still loomed in my spirit. That led us to try another church closer to our belief system. Having dinner with this pastor one evening I found that this church was the forth reform movement within the denomination. That blew the wind out of my sails. We stopped going there too. During these times we tried worship with some house churches and found that soon somebody was arguing over who had authority and who didn’t. Finally in 1998 we stopped going to church all together. We loved the Lord but couldn’t find the church God promised. I went from a busy ministry to big church to small house church to “I can worship God anywhere.”

A Strange Leading

During these 9 years after I left the full time ministry I stayed in contact with Dave who was struggling equally. One time he asked me “what if we don’t have peace because we are part of the rebellion?” I said I didn’t understand. He said, “you know, the reformation.” Well that would mean the Catholic Church was right and after all, they were not even Christian. I didn’t want to think of that, but it was a question that I would come back to me on several occasions over the years. After a year of going nowhere to church and reading to try and find direction, I hit the bottom of emptiness. By this time Dave was looking at the Catholic Church and I wasn’t ready for that. One day I was watching TV and saw a news story on an apparition site in our area. I had seen this before for several years and watched busses of people go to this place. One of my 67 books was The Final Hour by Michael Brown of which I thoroughly enjoyed. I loved biblical prophecy and this was a great book. I was curious as to why Mary would come to these Catholics but I had come to the conclusion that she had to come because they wouldn’t recognize Jesus. And after all God loved them enough to send them someone they would believe. Anyhow, this year I was intrigued by the TV story and I called the ministry and ask if they were a church (they said no) and if they had a simple prayer service during the week. I just wanted a simple service to pray without preaching and without a pastor. They said Monday night was a good service for that. I called my buddy Dave and we went only to find that it was a Rosary service. What did I know about the rosary? What was I doing there? I had felt lead to be there, it was a long drive, and besides nobody knew me. I figured I could make it through the service. This ministry was an ecumenical confraternity of the Catholic Church. Too many bad words in that description: ecumenical and Catholic. Nevertheless, I stayed and to my surprise decided to come back the next Monday. We went every week for one year on Monday nights and one night Mary whispered in my spirit “ it’s time to look at my church.” I said “OK.” So much for my “I’ll never” speech. She asked and I folded. She broke me with her gentle way. So I began to attend with Dave at his parish and later on I met a wonderful priest who ask to sponsored me into the church (knowing full well that I wasn’t going to join his parish). He and I met weekly for 2 hours for six months. I ask and discussed all those issues important to Protestants. I came into the church at the Easter vigil in 2001.

Home at Last

Today I’m a member of The Sacred Heart of Jesus parish in Wadsworth Ohio. I’m involved with the RCIA program, active in Legion of Mary, and a Eucharistic minister. I meet monthly with a group in Cleveland called The Emmaus Roundtable, a lay group of Christian apologists. I’ve just returned from an international conference overseas called “Path to Rome.” This was a wonderful conference filled with convert testimonies who have come to the Catholic faith. It was very encouraging to me. My buddy Dave and I had to opportunity to go together and we were asked to give our testimonies at the conference. What an honor it was.

Well I’ve finally found the church that Jesus promised and in the most unlikely place. Becoming a Catholic is a good way to lose protestant friends. My kids, now at Christian college, had to defend my actions to their Christian friends. They’d come home and ask why I believed the distinctive differences that most Protestants know. It’s been rough sometimes but it’s so good to be home! My prayer is that my protestant brothers and sisters find their “path to Rome” as well.


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